Wesley: All right. I'm going to let you all in on something you may have trouble comprehending. I assure you however-- Gunn: Vampires are real. Wesley: I was telling!

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Toddson - Jan 11, 2013 12:17:46 pm PST #7346 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Did you notice that in all the photos of open plan offices the places are IMMACULATE? no stray papers, no personal items cluttering up the place ... not all that realistic, in my experience.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 11, 2013 12:25:00 pm PST #7347 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

If I was at a table like Jessica's, I can't figure out what I would do with my stuff. I print out about 30 billion times fewer things than everyone else at my job, but I still have stacks of notes, invoices, registration forms, brochures, etc.


Jessica - Jan 11, 2013 12:26:42 pm PST #7348 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did you notice that in all the photos of open plan offices the places are IMMACULATE? no stray papers, no personal items cluttering up the place ... not all that realistic, in my experience.

The photos of my office (the link I posted) are. Office services did ask everyone to tidy up before the photographers arrived, but there isn't a lot of clutter around, generally speaking. The design of the office combined with the green initiative to go paperless keeps things pretty neat.


Glamcookie - Jan 11, 2013 12:35:50 pm PST #7349 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I am with meara on being so happy to work from home. My workplace went to low-walled cubes for everyone a few years ago and it was okay, but home is way better! In fact, there was a huge upswing in working from home when they did this - the building is often over half empty. I finally got to let my cube go completely about 6 months ago and have none there, which is just fine with me. I camp in my old manager's cube with her when I'm there (maybe once every couple of months).

ETA: Jessica, your workplace looks really pretty and modern!


le nubian - Jan 11, 2013 12:37:52 pm PST #7350 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Reminds me of a campus residence hall built in the 1970s - it was the height of the movement to have open flooring for residences, so they put 7 people in campus apartments (each apt) without walls thinking students would love the openness.

After about 2-3 years and discontent, they put walls up.


le nubian - Jan 11, 2013 12:39:18 pm PST #7351 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

My condolences Gris. I'm so sorry about all of this hitting you at once.


meara - Jan 11, 2013 12:39:29 pm PST #7352 of 30001

Yeah, my problem is, if we have GOOD tools, I'm ok with a lot of paperlessness, but I don't always have good tools. Plus I am just enough of a dinosaur that I like to write on things, scribble over them, check things off lists, etc. For instance, in the visits I do, we have a computer system that tracks problems we have to follow up on. I hate it. And in theory, I could review all of them in the system while I'm at those locations, and write new ones, etc. But really what I do is export it all beforehand, print it out, and then make notes on it and enter that info later. Not as smooth or paperless, but so much easier for me.

On a separate note, I saw a link to this today and thought of all the awful things that poor Maria went through, and thought it was a great idea: [link]


brenda m - Jan 11, 2013 12:43:32 pm PST #7353 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Did you notice that in all the photos of open plan offices the places are IMMACULATE? no stray papers, no personal items cluttering up the place ... not all that realistic, in my experience.

You don't accumulate that stuff at all the same way when you don't have a permanent spot. I barely print anything anymore, and when I do it's usually for short term use - almost nothing that is kept for more than a day or two.


Jesse - Jan 11, 2013 12:54:29 pm PST #7354 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

On my way home, I swung by the Gap to see about new jeans. I tried on a bunch, one fit fine and was as dark as I wanted, and was on sale for $40. Good deal! And then I got to checkout, and sale items were 30% further off, so they were $27! Suh-weet. I feel sort of bad about buy more boot cut, but fuck it, I like them.


Scrappy - Jan 11, 2013 12:54:32 pm PST #7355 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Nice office, Jess! I bet having all that lovely open space is more of luxury in NYC,where people go home to smallish spaces.