I'm not sure how old he is, but I heard him use the word 'newfangled' one time, so he's gotta be pretty far gone.

Dawn ,'Beneath You'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Dec 15, 2012 7:23:39 am PST #4658 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think the psychological harm of making schools have prison-like security is far more harmful that the possibility of the rare crazy person. We see every one of these incidents on a continuous loop for days, making it feel like there are far more such incidents than there really are. Such precautions are not even likely to be effective; any security expert will tell you there's no defense against a person who plans to die in an attack.

The only way arming the teachers could possibly help is if the teachers were required to have been in the military in an active fire zone. Without training and experience, few people can react correctly and fast enough. You might as well say that we need heavily armed kindergarteners.


amyth - Dec 15, 2012 7:28:12 am PST #4659 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Pix and ND, I'm so sorry.

Stephanie, I'm so frustrated on your behalf.


Pix - Dec 15, 2012 7:30:23 am PST #4660 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

Exactly, Ginger.


Ginger - Dec 15, 2012 7:32:09 am PST #4661 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I have a friend whose husband, who was a very well paid physics rockstar, went to court to reduce the amount he paid, claiming he couldn't afford it. He didn't think he could possibly reduce the $2,000+ a month he spent on expensive restaurants. The judge did laugh.


Consuela - Dec 15, 2012 7:37:14 am PST #4662 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

He didn't think he could possibly reduce the $2,000+ a month he spent on expensive restaurants.

The fuck?

I used to climb with someone (a kindergarten teacher) whose ex-husband had voluntarily bankrupted himself rather than pay child support. I do not understand this mentality.


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2012 7:49:39 am PST #4663 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah. That's a mindset I just don't get.

In my harsher moods, I feel that it should be grounds for terminating their parental rights. Don't want to pay your support? Fine. Just don't expect to be recognized as their parent.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2012 7:57:58 am PST #4664 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The problem with that is there are probably plenty of deadbeat dads who'd be just fine with that and don't care about knowing the kids at all.


Stephanie - Dec 15, 2012 8:14:54 am PST #4665 of 30001
Trust my rage

Honestly, the act that he had money hidden away shocked me. I assumed he wasn't paying because he couldn't. Which I at least understand a little but not the hiding the money or spending it all to avoid the kids he fought so hard to see.

ION, I am listening to Les Mis. So much of that musical makes me teary.


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2012 8:24:57 am PST #4666 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The problem with that is there are probably plenty of deadbeat dads who'd be just fine with that and don't care about knowing the kids at all.

There are a shockingly large percentage of them who feel that their sperm give them the right to demand access/influence/etc all without paying a red cent.


Jesse - Dec 15, 2012 8:27:03 am PST #4667 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Checked three things off my list and had lunch. Off to do two more. I think the last errand will wait for another day.