But wrapping our heads around it is not the same thing as saying, "hey, someone on ABS said it was Joe Schmoe in the basement with the lead pipe, and someone thinks they've found Joe's Facebook page."

If people want to use Natter as a virtual newsroom, then I still don't see the problem. I got more and better information here, well ahead of the official reportage. I took advantage of the judgment, interest, discretion and superior newsfeeds of other Buffistae.

Aside from all that, it's really not a subject that needed a thread nanny. At all. Some people obviously were interested in talking about it, and we weren't talking about it in Beep Me.

If people want to use Natter as a virtual newsroom, then I still don't see the problem.

Aside from all that, it's really not a subject that needed a thread nanny. At all. Some people obviously were interested in talking about it, and we weren't talking about it in Beep Me.

And with that, I am out of Natter for a while. Y'all can talk about it if you want, but I really don't want to read about it. I'm already avoiding all other news sources & blogs because I've hit information overload, and right now, reading the information and speculation doesn't make what happened any easier for me to understand or cope with.

No one told you to zip it. no one thread nannied you.

No one told you to zip it. no one thread nannied you.

Clearing your throat and going "Tut tut tut" and outright saying speculation is bad is trying to divert or kill the conversation.

Whatever. I don't need to parse it or pursue it. It was irritating to me and no more than that.

I hate living with no other adults in the house. It's lonely and hard when I want to talk about something. It helps me process. When big stuff happens, good or bad, I always follow along here. To me, speculating or sharing thoughts or ideas helps me process. Maybe it's not wise, but it serves a purpose.

We often come to Natter to get news without having to actually watch the news. My office includes people that think it is some Obama conspiracy to get his way with gun control. Facebook 'friends' include people that think teachers should have guns in the classroom. This is my sane place.

{{Buffistas}} Let kindness rule. We are all emotionally exhausted on these kind of days. Darn president had me teared up when I watched his news conference. Tough emotional tragedy.

Clearing your throat and going "Tut tut tut" and outright saying speculation is bad is trying to divert or kill the conversation.

I was assuming you were getting your information from somewhere, and for my own part, actually meant that I think it's irresponsible for the media -- or anyone else, really -- to jump on bits of preliminary information and try to build a story out of them, because that early stuff is so often wrong.

Yeah, I'll say that was me. I'm not against discussing news in Natter, at all--I find it interesting to see how people are thinking about things, or affected, or whatever. Sometimes people link to news sources I wouldn't have seen. But I felt like posting every snippet of possible speculation, much of which turned out to be untrue, felt both exploitative and excessive. We can disagree on that.

we all process events differently and no group is all gonna like how everyone does it. I want people to be able to do it and people to be able to say they don;t like it. Everyone is a grown up and can leave the threads when it gets too much in any direction. that is all I am saying.

ICON - I have glitter nails now and am home with my boy and he will be loved on and covered in smooches for the remainder of the night even though he seems to have no idea about the shooting.

Everyone is a grown up and can leave the threads when it gets too much in any direction. that is all I am saying

Or use MARCIE. Which is also a solution.

Today was our last day of the semester before the break. I had already given finals and grades as of 3 yesterday. It was surreal. I had a kid come to me at 1:30 PM to talk to me about her grade. She was failing and I manipulated some points and she ended up getting a 60.0%. She was all, "Well what can I do to get a C" um in the next hour and a half? NOT MUCH. SERIOUSLY!?

Then we were forced to take our kids to an assembly. It was... bad. It was a bunch of "performers" mostly dancing and lip synching. Including two kids who went to the school a few years, neither of whom graduated. [link] was the highlight of the program for me.