Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 14, 2012 11:44:35 am PST #4537 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That might explain some of the confusion about (a) whether the shooter was 20 or 24, or (b) why there were initial reports of two shooters.

One more reason why it's a bad idea to try to Understand anything from a suspect's Facebook page -- it might not even be the right name, much less the right person.

I just had a glass of wine at work, and I really don't understand three-martini lunches. Or, I do, and it makes me understand how productivity has gone up so much.


brenda m - Dec 14, 2012 12:06:13 pm PST #4538 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I want a glass of wine so bad right now.


msbelle - Dec 14, 2012 12:14:34 pm PST #4539 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Npr coverage seems to be very cautious and not releasing unconfirmed information.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 12:15:22 pm PST #4540 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One more reason why it's a bad idea to try to Understand anything from a suspect's Facebook page -- it might not even be the right name, much less the right person.

I really don't see why speculation is a bad idea, or piecing the story together. It would be one thing if there were people directly involved, but that wasn't the case. I was able to get a bead on the story much more quickly by piecing the bits and pieces that weren't reported immediately because they were unconfirmed or corroborated. Some of it was wrong and I mentioned that.

But many of the early rumors were true: a parent was killed away from the school, the principal was killed, most of the student killings were an entire classroom, it wasn't a parent but it was somebody with a connection to the school (so not random, or terrorist), etc.

I was never advocating bombing somebody's FB page or doing anything rash, so why not speculate? That's how you figure out what happened.


flea - Dec 14, 2012 12:15:57 pm PST #4541 of 30001
information libertarian

We are watching Mike Rowe paint the Mackinaw Bridge and eating homemade cookies. Evils of the world be damned.


Ginger - Dec 14, 2012 12:17:01 pm PST #4542 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I heard a report of a teacher who put all 14 of her students in the small bathroom off the classroom and pulled some equipment in front of the door so it looked unused. When the police came to the door, she wouldn't unlock it. She said, "You're the police. Get a key."

I think we need a better system for making sure everyone with mental illness gets competent treatment, because it would make for better lives. As a side effect, it might identify the tiny percentage of mentally ill who could become violent.

Historically, there have always been murderers and people who start killing at random. The problem is that modern large-magazine guns up the death count exponentially.


P.M. Marc - Dec 14, 2012 12:19:57 pm PST #4543 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Npr coverage seems to be very cautious and not releasing unconfirmed information.

Good.

Brenda, as a parent myself, even thinking that the gun laws and gun culture in the States are completely awful, I found that Slate article's tone massively counterproductive and offensive. It read like certain Facebook posts some friends who can't stand the president make seven times a day and will take any excuse to slam him. I've seen a hell of a lot of posts about the need to actually talk about gun violence and gun control that don't resort to ad hominem attacks.


Gudanov - Dec 14, 2012 12:26:37 pm PST #4544 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I think the Onion captures how I'm feeling about it.

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P.M. Marc - Dec 14, 2012 12:34:11 pm PST #4545 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I could seriously use some zebra footage, I tell you what.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 12:36:43 pm PST #4546 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This has Zebras.