You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 10:25:20 am PST #4514 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So it seems he killed his father first.

Drove to the school. Was buzzed in (he'd been a student there and his mom was a teacher there).

Shot his mom first. Then shot all the kids in her class. Some reports said "execution style." So horrific to contemplate.

Principal, Vice Principal and School Psychologist/Counselor went running out into the hall when they heard the shooting.

Principal and Counselor were killed, Vice Principal was wounded (shot in the foot) and crawled back to call 911.

Then I guess he killed a few other teachers that tried to stop him, and then he shot himself.

His younger brother has been taken into custody.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 14, 2012 10:28:57 am PST #4515 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Believe me, I get this. But propagating the stereotype of the mentally ill as violent criminals who need to be controlled is not the answer, which is all that line of thinking does in the end.

How does one describe someone capable of this? I'm genuinely curious, because I'm at a loss, because I agree with your point above but...

Is it disturbed? Sociopathic? Irrational (which I think is accurate for describing rage)?

Incidentally, I'd like to apologize for my use of the phrase "bugfuck crazy" earlier (I think that's what it was); it was a visceral response, but it was both glib and unthinking. I should have thought before posting.


le nubian - Dec 14, 2012 10:30:50 am PST #4516 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Hec,

apparently the shooter's girlfriend and another friend are missing.


Liese S. - Dec 14, 2012 10:32:43 am PST #4517 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Was buzzed in with the rifle?


Jessica - Dec 14, 2012 10:32:52 am PST #4518 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

How does one describe someone capable of this?

I think until we know more, "evil" will pretty much cover it. No need to speculate on his mental state beyond that.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 10:34:49 am PST #4519 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

apparently the shooter's girlfriend and another friend are missing.

Jesus.

My armchair psychology suggests a narcissistic personality disorder. Somebody who feels entitled to take his wounding out on the world.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 10:35:21 am PST #4520 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was buzzed in with the rifle?

Could've been under a long coat?


Steph L. - Dec 14, 2012 10:38:29 am PST #4521 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This is the kind of gun he used.

He bought it legally.

But gun control is a bad thing. Ungoddamnbelievable.

How does one describe someone capable of this?

I think until we know more, "evil" will pretty much cover it. No need to speculate on his mental state beyond that.

Yup. You don't have to be clinically, diagnosably mentally ill to be evil. You just have to be evil.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 10:40:26 am PST #4522 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was buzzed in with the rifle?

Now I'm seeing that the rifle was found in his car. So he took two pistols into the school.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 10:47:03 am PST #4523 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting summary of the criminal psychology research that's been done on rampage violence.

“The pseudocommando is a type of mass murderer who kills in public during the daytime, plans his offense well in advance, and comes prepared with a powerful arsenal of weapons. He has no escape planned and expects to be killed during the incident. Research suggests that the pseudocommando is driven by strong feelings of anger and resentment, flowing from beliefs about being persecuted or grossly mistreated. He views himself as carrying out a highly personal agenda of payback. It is argued that revenge fantasies become the last refuge for the pseudocommando’s mortally wounded self-esteem and ultimately enable him to commit mass murder-suicide.” (Journal of American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, March 2010)