Don't know, JZ, click bait? I mean, if you click it cause you hate it, still traffic.

Don't know, JZ, click bait? I mean, if you click it cause you hate it, still traffic.

Yup. The Atlantic is getting Slate-ified. So disappointing.

Thanks for all the birthday wishes, folks! And I get to continue celebrating because my flowers are in my office and they're lovely. And I'm meeting my niece for lunch--she gets back from her semester in Chile today!

On the down side, I scheduled at teleconference for tomorrow at 2 PM, except tomorrow is the holiday party, which is off-site. I don't really want to miss it, but I hate rescheduling the meeting at this late date (we set the date two months ago!). Sigh.

One of the guys on our midwestern team asked me and one developer if we're getting something for our manager.

I forgot to answer. The developer did, enthusiastically. I have never bought a boss/manager Christmas gifts (I'm back from JA gifts, but usually the whole team gets those) and only one boss (guy who was fired from here) gave us gifts, and they were along the line of Steph's--his wife made salsa, and there were handmade labels--so you're not getting a sense of huge amounts of money, just more personal gestures.

Why not ask the whole team? I am confused. I'm not giving my manager a gift that doesn't come from anyone else in the LA group. God, just the asskissingness aspect of that makes me shudder. And they already think, apparently, that I'm a bit forward with the executives.

if we're getting something for our manager

In the work environment, gifts should flow downwards, not upwards. People shouldn't be giving presents to their supervisors, it leads to perceptions of influence. In fact, that's a rule in the federal system: supervisors can give gifts, but gifts to supervisors are either forbidden or very limited.

Also, it's just unfair to expect someone making less money to be giving presents to someone making more.

In the work environment, gifts should flow downwards, not upwards.

Yes.

I get really irate about expectations to give up the chain of command, because of the less-money part. I hadn't even thought about the perception of influence!

I've given my boss holiday or birthday gifts in the past, but always little in-jokey things, nothing expensive. And it's certainly not something expected within the company culture, just something I do on my own if I see something I know she'd love.

Maybe just a change in mindset would help. The teachers here give holiday gifts to our custodians. We take up money and give them cash or gift certificates to somewhere. We see it as a thank you for keeping our rooms clean. They provide us with a service and feel they should be thanked for it. Yes, they get paid for that service, but I see it as no different than tipping a hairdresser.

I agree that we should show appreciation, -- but I somehow I feel like the way it is done here is just overly generous and embarrassing. We also all get called down to the big lounge and present the cash to the people, who have to make thank you speeches, and it is just over the top. It reminds me of my crazy ex-boss who wanted to buy our head custodian a coat for Christmas because she thought he didn't have the money for it. I was like- that guy works for facilities and probably makes twice what I do!. She also used to buy me clothes-- like lots of clothes.

Happy birthday, Consuela!

When I left Berkeley, I tried to tell them that I didn't want a party, or anyone passing the hat to buy me some kind of gift, and my supervisor took me aside and told me that I should accept a party gracefully, because depriving my coworkers of cake and an hour or two away from their desks was just selfish of me.

I've pretty much employed that thinking throughout the rest of my work life: I sent a strong message that I didn't want people to buy presents when I was having a baby, for instance, but we were definitely going to buy a cake with petty cash from the library fund.

Speaking of that baby, she has given me the plague (she was out of preschool all last week with a fever and respiratory infection) and I am home for the second day in a row. I'd be sleeping, but the handyman is fixing things, and the housecleaners are here.

We chip in a bit for a collective office gift to our company's owners here, but it's a tiny company where everyone is friends or family, they're great bosses, and we generally receive holiday bonuses/gifts from them that far outstrip the amount any of us contribute toward the gift.