There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 06, 2012 2:24:59 pm PST #3420 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Then, YAY Dana!

I know it doesn't actually help, Consuela, but it's not your mom -- it's the disease. She's not rational, and can't be talked into anything, I'm sure. All of you just have to figure out how to deal with it in the way that makes you the least crazy.


Dana - Dec 06, 2012 2:27:08 pm PST #3421 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, there is just no way to "win" an argument with her at this point. I hope she gets past the point of calling and yelling at you all the time, though.


Consuela - Dec 06, 2012 2:43:29 pm PST #3422 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, there is just no way to "win" an argument with her at this point.

Oh, I know that. The problem is that her dementia is not sufficiently advanced to allow you to avoid the argument. She's like a bulldog: she will not let you back out or change the subject or anything, she just keeps returning to the question of why is she here? And when you answer her, kindly and truthfully, she rejects the truth, because the only answer she believes is that we are institutionalizing her so she can be abandoned.


Scrappy - Dec 06, 2012 2:44:34 pm PST #3423 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

When my grandmother got to the point where she was convinced The people on her TV were watching her and that the government was stealing her money and we had to STOP THEM, and that was all she wanted to talk about, we all got used to just agreeing. There was no way to change her mind because there was a big part of her that loved the drama since it made her the center of the universe, a position she enjoyed. We all would let her rant and kind of nod and just not listen, honestly. She would call my mom 15 or 20 times a day at her bookstore, but not my dad (her son) because he was "at work." She finally dementia-ed to the next level, which was somewhat calmer.


Connie Neil - Dec 06, 2012 2:55:35 pm PST #3424 of 30001
brillig

Have you tried agreeing with your mother? Or does that just trigger a whole new scale of bad?


Consuela - Dec 06, 2012 2:58:29 pm PST #3425 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Have you tried agreeing with your mother? Or does that just trigger a whole new scale of bad?

Yes, because if we agree with her, then obviously to her the next step is to remove her. And that's not going to work: they really need to be where they are, with resources supporting them and a potential social life for my dad (if not my mom).


meara - Dec 06, 2012 3:11:10 pm PST #3426 of 30001

Is she gone enough that you can promise to take her home "tomorrow"?


Consuela - Dec 06, 2012 3:30:01 pm PST #3427 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Is she gone enough that you can promise to take her home "tomorrow"?

Sadly no. Well, sometimes she is and sometimes she isn't and you can't rely on it. If you told her you'd take her home tomorrow she might insist it be put on the calendar and complied with.


msbelle - Dec 06, 2012 3:32:45 pm PST #3428 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I was not going to suggest railing at her really (unless it would make Consuela feel better) just wondering what happened.

I think the phone should be put out of her sight and told it is broken.

Is she gone enough that you can promise to take her home "tomorrow"?

or told that she went yesterday and wanted to come back? She's just say y'all were lying right?


Theodosia - Dec 06, 2012 3:36:43 pm PST #3429 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

My heart goes out to you and your family, Consuela.