Matt, you have job doing art, the practical side of being an Artist, yes?

Yes, educational/textbook design and illustration. I wasn't particularly interested in being a starving artist, so I took Commercial Art courses in high school and went for a Bachelor of Science degree in Graphic Design rather than a BFA.

Matt, you live in Memphis and do art - did you go to MCA by any chance? I had some friends who went there.

Actually, I live in Jonesboro AR now, though I did live in Memphis for four years. I considered MCA (they had a partner program where you could take academic classes at Rhodes), but the cheapness of living at home and my grandmother's failing health ultimately convinced me to choose ASU.

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

It is only 77 here today; thunderstorms will do that.

DH and I both got our degrees with the express intention of using them to get employed. We both have Accounting BS degrees. After we graduated we decided to open a computer business and neither one of us ever did accounting as a career. That was in 1988.

We were both the first in our families to have 4 year degrees. Although the benefits were not related to our career choice they still had a lot to do with our success. The sense of accomplishment and confidence surely played a part. Also most of our customers were business managers of some variety and the university experience helped with communication.

msbelle, sort of , but not really. If my house was in good shape ( no clutter areas) I could follow her program really well. As it is , I hae a morning routine and a evening routine ( sort of ) and on tuesdays am I do my version of te weekl home blessing. Every other wed when I have off I pick a project area, for an extra 15 min or an hour to do some improvement. My house is much much better.

My morning routine is big - because I get up at 7 and i don't leave the house until 830ish.

I have to get moving and off the computer now, but you can email me if you want details.

but the concept of baby steps , and who cares what I haven't done is making a big difference.

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

It seems so to me. It also seems like it's meant for people with a lot more people in their house than I have.

Yes, educational/textbook design and illustration

This was one of the few things my mother let me consider for even a moment. Bio 101 was incredibly boring, but my lab notes were GORgeous.

For favorite movie / favorite book, I find it much easier to remember books/movies that I hated than ones I loved.

It's 91 outside and it's not even noon yet. AND the elevator is apparently out of service! Which means I guess I'm having shrimp chips from the vending machine for lunch today.

Not comforting sitting in a computer room and hearing the tell-tale thwump-hmm of a power dip and the UPS-s start to give off warning beeps.

Haven't browned-out yet, but when that starts at 10:30 am.....

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

SAH people with kids in school, or working people with no kids. There is no way to do everything she suggests if you are cleaning up after kids AND working outside the home all day. (Or even working from a home office.)

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

As an anti-Fly, but one who's tried it and thought a good bit about her stuff, my take is that there's a lot of good stuff that anyone, SAH or not, can abstract from the system (having routines, forgiving yourself, breaking things down into doable pieces: all really GOOD things that I don't at all dispute!), wrapped up in a huge wrapper of pretty traditional cultural assumptions. Some people happily ignore that for the good parts, for others it seems like unnecessary extra spoons to hack through the unwanted bits (ironically enough), or it's even outright toxic.

I think it's worth at least looking at, if the good parts sound like they'd work for you? But also to be aware that it's a pretty strongly YMMV thing.