Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jul 18, 2013 6:02:53 am PDT #29557 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

It is only 77 here today; thunderstorms will do that.

DH and I both got our degrees with the express intention of using them to get employed. We both have Accounting BS degrees. After we graduated we decided to open a computer business and neither one of us ever did accounting as a career. That was in 1988.

We were both the first in our families to have 4 year degrees. Although the benefits were not related to our career choice they still had a lot to do with our success. The sense of accomplishment and confidence surely played a part. Also most of our customers were business managers of some variety and the university experience helped with communication.


beth b - Jul 18, 2013 6:04:36 am PDT #29558 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

msbelle, sort of , but not really. If my house was in good shape ( no clutter areas) I could follow her program really well. As it is , I hae a morning routine and a evening routine ( sort of ) and on tuesdays am I do my version of te weekl home blessing. Every other wed when I have off I pick a project area, for an extra 15 min or an hour to do some improvement. My house is much much better.

My morning routine is big - because I get up at 7 and i don't leave the house until 830ish.

I have to get moving and off the computer now, but you can email me if you want details.

but the concept of baby steps , and who cares what I haven't done is making a big difference.


Hil R. - Jul 18, 2013 6:28:15 am PDT #29559 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

It seems so to me. It also seems like it's meant for people with a lot more people in their house than I have.


§ ita § - Jul 18, 2013 6:31:34 am PDT #29560 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes, educational/textbook design and illustration

This was one of the few things my mother let me consider for even a moment. Bio 101 was incredibly boring, but my lab notes were GORgeous.


Jessica - Jul 18, 2013 6:34:48 am PDT #29561 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

For favorite movie / favorite book, I find it much easier to remember books/movies that I hated than ones I loved.

It's 91 outside and it's not even noon yet. AND the elevator is apparently out of service! Which means I guess I'm having shrimp chips from the vending machine for lunch today.


sarameg - Jul 18, 2013 6:35:03 am PDT #29562 of 30001

Not comforting sitting in a computer room and hearing the tell-tale thwump-hmm of a power dip and the UPS-s start to give off warning beeps.

Haven't browned-out yet, but when that starts at 10:30 am.....


Jessica - Jul 18, 2013 6:36:03 am PDT #29563 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

SAH people with kids in school, or working people with no kids. There is no way to do everything she suggests if you are cleaning up after kids AND working outside the home all day. (Or even working from a home office.)


amych - Jul 18, 2013 6:37:56 am PDT #29564 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

As an anti-Fly, but one who's tried it and thought a good bit about her stuff, my take is that there's a lot of good stuff that anyone, SAH or not, can abstract from the system (having routines, forgiving yourself, breaking things down into doable pieces: all really GOOD things that I don't at all dispute!), wrapped up in a huge wrapper of pretty traditional cultural assumptions. Some people happily ignore that for the good parts, for others it seems like unnecessary extra spoons to hack through the unwanted bits (ironically enough), or it's even outright toxic.

I think it's worth at least looking at, if the good parts sound like they'd work for you? But also to be aware that it's a pretty strongly YMMV thing.


WindSparrow - Jul 18, 2013 6:46:37 am PDT #29565 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

people who use Fly lady - much of her message is meant for SAH people, right?

A lot of her examples of routines are from her own routines, and as she is a SAH herself that is what they look like. But she also says that they are just examples, and she expects people whose lives are different from her own to make adjustments using the principles she teaches to develop the routines that work for them. When I was really FLYing well, I had three different routines. One for days I had off, one for days that I worked 8 hours or less, and one for the days I worked 12 or more hours.

ETA: for a gothy, less-cheerful, more simple reinterpretation, I submit for your attention, Batlady on LJ: [link]


Theodosia - Jul 18, 2013 7:09:38 am PDT #29566 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Heh, on the Batlady LJ. When her first instruction is "Remove vacant cobwebs" (emphasis mine) I know I'm in the right place....