Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Scrappy - Jul 03, 2013 5:53:46 am PDT #28035 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

From what I read, the conceit for Tonto in the film is that he's become unbalanced by what's happened to Native Americans and has sort of become the stereotype. because of this, heis an outcast from his tribe. The other Native Ameicans are portrayed as intelligent, non-stereotyped, etc.

I'm not sure this will work, but...


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 03, 2013 6:07:52 am PDT #28036 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Is anybody else getting a visual on Superman's cape getting caught in the turbine of a jet engine like in Enda's No Capes!montage, but the plane gets seriously fucked up instead of Supe?

I am NOW. Though I imagine that happens to the plane even if a non-invulnerable person gets sucked into the turbine, if planes have gone down because of 12 lb. geese.


msbelle - Jul 03, 2013 6:09:42 am PDT #28037 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I've been meaning to link to this for a week or so - a radio program on my local npr station on depression. The bits I heard were interesting [link]


WindSparrow - Jul 03, 2013 6:12:41 am PDT #28038 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I am NOW. Though I imagine that happens to the plane even if a non-invulnerable person gets sucked into the turbine, if planes have gone down because of 12 lb. geese.

My brain is totally using cartoon physics for this one. And Supe being Supe, he does manage to catch the body of the plane before it reaches terminal velocity. But it's still pretty bad.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2013 6:30:04 am PDT #28039 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scrappy, I don't believe there's any reason that has to make sense, but what is the reason for it being in the story period? They couldn't just write him not-weird and go from there? Anyone unduly attached to the original Tonto is 98% likely an asshole and can be ignored from here on in. Not pandered to by someone professing respect (and kinship) who can't tell the foreground of a painting from the background.


Jesse - Jul 03, 2013 6:46:28 am PDT #28040 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

They couldn't just write him not-weird

Not once they cast current Johnny Depp.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2013 6:57:46 am PDT #28041 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, someone needs to just ask Johnny Depp to fucking act again, instead of recycling. Remember when he used to do that? Remember when you liked him because he was cute and talented? Instead, now he's convinced Jack Sparrow can save the Noble Savage. WTF? Stop indulging him!

I can't believe I swung 180 on both him and HB(i)C. I used to not like her at all, and now she's definitely the cool one.

Gawker gave the movie a flat review, and this is my favourite comment:

And yet it seemed like such a good idea at the time, said nobody

Yeah, it's well-used, BUT RIGHT.

I tried to distract someone from making a big deal of a user problem by going OTT in describing the situation ("Did they give up altogether, sacrificing themselves on the pyre of HTML forms, or did they soldier on despite collateral damage and repetitive stress injury?") and it seemed to work. Thank god. I'm not sure why I took that gamble with a stranger. Sometimes I reread my shit and wonder what I was thinking, and I don't even have sleep meds to blame that on.


Zenkitty - Jul 03, 2013 7:15:10 am PDT #28042 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I liked The Lone Ranger when I was a kid (I liked Westerns), and I would have liked to see a "serious" movie of it. But I was done with the concept when they cast a white guy as Tonto and put a dead crow on his head. (Depp is part Native American, but I don't care, and I doubt the actual Native Americans do either, under the circumstances.)

I think I had something else to say, but it's gone.

Our offices close at 2pm for the holiday, until next Monday, and so I'm trying to finish all my work by 2pm. The possibility is receding ever more quickly.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2013 7:20:44 am PDT #28043 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Depp is part Native American

From what I can see he's either part Creek or Cherokee (he's not sure) and he was accepted into one of the tribes...by a relative of someone working on the film? Just all this thin-veneer make-nice stuff that completely avoids the point that he could still be a key part of a horribly offensive movie and be 100% Native American anyway.

They gave us cookies on Monday and they're just sitting there, smiling their high glycemic load smiles at me. I hate them. Actually, I don't really like the cookies either--mint chocolate chip cookies are not my favourite--but with a good cup of tea many ills are overcome.


sarameg - Jul 03, 2013 7:24:46 am PDT #28044 of 30001

A coworker is being introduced to The Big Bang Theory next door.

Basically? Nothing is getting done today.