I'm so glad my father gave up driving easily (and my mother is mentally and physically healthy!). But every so often, he does still offer to drive....

Is there any reason not to take away his car keys? I know, it's not treating him like a grownup, but sheeit. He's tacitly agreed to all this, right? If he's not going to stand up and say he's changed his mind, it was a bad idea, remove the avenue of his caving. Make it a cab ride away, at the very least.

I loved my nokia phones until the design division fucked themselves.

Yeah, I was Nokia for a long time. I loved the idea of Symbian phones, and a couple of the form factors were so freaking cool. Look at this sexy puppy, man. I still have that in my box of broken toys. No idea about a charger though.

the "no heroes" thing is why I have hopes for Jeremy

Since that would involve killing his sister and her boyfriends, and that he took out a relatively minor guy to get his hunter points (the hybrids have been shown to be much less of a threat than the pure werewolves or vampires) leaves me thinking his moral compass is as broken as the rest of them.

Lee, I manage my music from iTunes to my phone/tablet with DoubleTwist.

My grandfather on my mom's side refused to stop driving. He would just take side streets in his small town. Then he accidentally got onto a four-lane street in town and caused an accident. So my mom (who had power of attorney) just gave the car to me. (It was '71 Galaxie 500 with lots of miles, probably worth $100.)

He was really angry about having his car taken away, but after a few days he forgot all about it.

My parents stopped driving without complaint (my dad after his doctor told him to stop). The last time my dad drove with me in the car I was appalled at how his driving skills had deteriorated.

Is there any reason not to take away his car keys?

Just respect for his independence. Which is a pretty big reason, for me, anyway. He hasn't gotten into any accidents yet, and he takes the AARP safe-driving refreshers pretty regularly. And it is convenient sometimes to have his car around, because Mom has trouble getting into most of our other cars: too high, too small, something.

How about just for a month (or whatever period of time), to help your mom settle? If he doesn't understand/believe that the only way to get used to the new place is to see it as the only place, then I think it's probably a good call.

What might be worthwhile is to broach the idea with him that he give you his keys for a week or two voluntarily. It might acutally make things easier for him since he could have an out and would not have to fight off her entreaties to drive her back. (Sometimes passive is the best kind of aggressive!)

ION, I don't understand why this photoset doesn't have All The Notes.

Just respect for his independence

As well you should. But does he know that he's always coming right back to their new digs? If he even vaguely doubts that, he should give them to you until it's more of a non-issue.

Reason # 831 I am better off single: My thought wrt being in the place of Suela's dad - fake an injury that would render me immobile.

You know, Suela, you could take the car into the shop for routine maintenance and leave it there for a couple days.

"Had to change the oil. Sorry, couldn't get out there to pick it up today. Do you really need to go somewhere today?"