Suzi,

what grade is he in?

what is your objective? do you feel he does not have mastery over the coursework? do you want him to increase GPA? why is he getting D's?

if you want mastery, maybe he needs to go to a local community college (if this is an option available to you) for the course. this might suit him better and he may have more motivation to be in that kind of environment.

this may not help with the GPA.

the experience you had does not represent the virtue that we exude

This is lovely.

Suzi, could anyone in ARP drop some words of wisdom on how schoolwork ties in to the important practical stuff that's going on with ARP? Maybe tie in that diligence in school indicates someone who will be diligent in the field?

Sounds like you're doing what you can, Suzi.

I realize school is important and he needs good grades to get into the fire science program so that he has the education he needs to get PAID for his passion. But he would be a shell of himself without ARP.

That seems like the key thing -- does he have long-term goals, and does he know what he needs to get to them?

Here's a rhetorical cake-definition question: [link]

I am with Nina. What could that even be on the outside, that wouldn't be yuck??

Something for ita !

I am with Nina. What could that even be on the outside, that wouldn't be yuck??

Whipped cream? Which is good on the berries and stuff they have for garnish, though I find it a little hard to picture with watermelon.

He just finished 10th grade. He knows, intellectually, all the benefits of putting in that added effort to get better grades. He knows that high school grades make a difference in getting into college and his ability to pass the fire service aptitude tests. He has heard it all from multiple sources. We have had great discussions on the topic and also have had very tense discussions.

During his freshman year we tried prohibiting ARP when he struggled with grades and it didn't help a lick. Negative consequences don't do a thing. He just goes without and doesn't change his school effort. It has been this way for years. We were very lucky with K-Bug in that school work was never an issue with her. She didn't have to put in much effort and got great grades. He is a different student than she was (and different than KCD was). He is more like me - the more you push, the less he does.

With KCD, he isn't there for the day to day school discussions or homework efforts. He doesn't check on CJ's grades but freaks when I give him an update (I know, just stop giving him updates [as if]). He wouldn't let CJ bring his school work on the weekends until this last year.

He wouldn't let CJ bring his school work on the weekends until this last year.

Wait, WHAT?

He wouldn't let CJ bring his school work on the weekends until this last year.

He automatically needs to shut his pie-hole then.

Oh jeez!

Which is good on the berries and stuff they have for garnish, though I find it a little hard to picture with watermelon.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.