I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


NoiseDesign - May 18, 2013 11:14:19 pm PDT #22915 of 30001
Our wings are not tired

It is much worse being a woman buying a car, I've seen that too many times.

I've also had dealerships just be jerks and crazy. I have no patience for it and will do one of two things. Usually I just walk out.

However, if I have nothing better to do that day, I'll see how much time I can waste. I'll let the deal get all the way to contract, then "change" my mind and walk out of the finance office. If a dealership is going to jerk me around, then I can certainly pay that back by wasting their time. The worst thing I did was with a particularly bad dealership that was trying to pull a bait and switch on me. I went back about a week later to "buy" the car. I made sure i walked in about 1 hour before closing, let the deal go far enough along that they were keeping finance open late to get the contract put together, then I excused myself to use the bathroom, and walked out of the dealership.

Yes, I know. I'm a bit of an ass.


sarameg - May 19, 2013 3:03:53 am PDT #22916 of 30001

I hate shopping in general. I don't want to waste MY time and I have no patience for games. I can, will and have walked out within 5 minutes because of a hard sell.

Now, I'm particularly not looking forward to it because I don't have all the cards. I don't fucking know what I want. I want no car payment. I want a car I can trust. I don't want to deal with any of this shit. I actually don't give a shit about cars, I just don't want to have to think about them. That's about it, and that leaves me flailing.


Hil R. - May 19, 2013 3:28:50 am PDT #22917 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The only car I've ever bought was a Scion, and I walked in knowing what car I wanted, and they have fixed prices. I've gone along with my parents when they bought cars at regular dealerships, though, and it looks like such a pain.


Calli - May 19, 2013 4:10:17 am PDT #22918 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Ford lost my business when I went to a dealer and could not get anyone to sell me a car. I was about 22, female (of course), and there in my nice new office worker suit. They did not seem to be particularily busy. People would catch my eye and then go back to their conversations or papers. I've never felt so invisible in my life. This was in the early 90s. When I heard later that they were having some difficulty moving stock my lack of surprise could have been seen from space.

I went three miles up the road and bought a Grand Am. Got a lousy deal on it, in retrospect, but at least they were willing to sell it to me. And day-um, that car was fun to drive.


Tom Scola - May 19, 2013 4:17:34 am PDT #22919 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

32328 points. Everything less than 1 km. I may have cheated a little.


Sue - May 19, 2013 4:42:50 am PDT #22920 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Whoa, Tom. bows down


Laura - May 19, 2013 4:50:24 am PDT #22921 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Well done, Tom! Your cheating is most impressive.

I took DH with me to buy a car when we were first dating because of the female issue. No doubt I won his heart that day when I ripped the salesman up one side and down the other when he tried to change the deal we had already agreed to. He just stood aside eyes wide watching me. And then followed me as I walked out. Now that I think about it I pretty much have taken the lead on all the vehicles I have purchased over the last couple decades. For me, he has done his own thing on his.

I hate shopping or haggling. If I tell you I am willing to buy at this price it is not an opening salvo.


sarameg - May 19, 2013 5:13:41 am PDT #22922 of 30001

I just don't want to deal at all.

Loki just eagerly ate some filling from a spinach empanada. And went back for more. Weirdo.


Steph L. - May 19, 2013 5:23:55 am PDT #22923 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

32,120: [link] I googled A LOT.


Sheryl - May 19, 2013 5:32:07 am PDT #22924 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I'm hoping to get a few more years out of the car(It's 13 years old) since I don't relish the idea of car shopping. Previous time I ended up with a deal that probably wasn't the best, but I was under time restriction.(My old car had been totalled, and the insurance company only covered the rental for a specific amount of time.) At least I won't be doing it alone this time.