Anya, the Shopkeepers of America called. They wanted me to tell you that 'please go' just got replaced with 'have a nice day.'

Xander ,'Selfless'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - May 08, 2013 7:48:39 pm PDT #21911 of 30001
Because books.

My mom did that with me, beth. And I did it with my kids. "It's naptime. You're going to stay in this room for X amount of time, and I don't care what you do." Most kids will be so intrigued that they can play quietly, they fall asleep anyway.


DavidS - May 08, 2013 7:48:52 pm PDT #21912 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Some kids are desperately afraid that they will miss something if they go to sleep. It's like the party will start the instant their eyes close.

Some kids do not recognize when they're getting tired and instead get cranky and fighty.

Some kids go to sleep easily but wake up several times in the night and then can't get back to sleep.


Vortex - May 08, 2013 7:49:49 pm PDT #21913 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

My goddaughter puts herself to sleep. She will announce "good night" loudly and go into her room and pull the covers over her head. She gets very cranky if we insist on things like brushing teeth or changing into pajamas.


§ ita § - May 08, 2013 8:09:38 pm PDT #21914 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My parents stopped putting me to bed when I was three or so. I mostly stuck to my bed, but they handed me the book and said "you know it by heart, learn to read the others, we're out" and we created our routines. We even instituted goodnight kisses at some point, and my parents were all "whose are these, why are they lippy?"

Blessedly I don't have kids to teach me reality, but our norm was not like what I read about. In the US, anyway.


le nubian - May 08, 2013 8:15:13 pm PDT #21915 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

goddamn Time Warner DVR in the middle of watching Survivor crapped out and re-booted automatically.


Cass - May 08, 2013 8:24:18 pm PDT #21916 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Juliebird, they really aren't going to throw you in jail for this. They are going to have a fine and maybe make you do some paperwork or classes at worst. It will cost money, yes, but they aren't doing more. It is, comparatively, a gimme.

I know it's horribly stressful and it's going to cost money and it has already cost that and mental ease, but it will be okay.

No books, no songs, no playtime, no conversation, no requests for water, no struggle. Just sleep.

I need to be sleep trained maybe.

Or the world needs to accept that we can brush our teeth, say goodnight, maybe hear a story and the world still won't shut the fuck off sometimes. Even with meds.

I was up all night last night. Just kinda lying there. Until my alarm went off early. Then I got up. But I tried all night to sleep first.

Tonight I am exhausted and hoping I can steer that toward actually sleeping.


Cass - May 08, 2013 8:25:31 pm PDT #21917 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

goddamn Time Warner DVR in the middle of watching Survivor crapped out and re-booted automatically.

I am assuming this is in Natter and not Tech because we are just so fucking used to it?

If you want to punch them in the face, I will totally provide an alibi. I was rebooting at the time. And you were with me.


le nubian - May 08, 2013 8:47:49 pm PDT #21918 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah, there is no Tech related question. It is my weekly TW rant.


meara - May 08, 2013 11:01:09 pm PDT #21919 of 30001

Oh, lesbian drama. The girl I'm dating's ex just friend-requested me on Facebook. I've never met her. And have no intention of accepting, but good grief.


erin_obscure - May 08, 2013 11:23:33 pm PDT #21920 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

By age 5 I didn't have a bedtime because before my parents got to the point of thinking "isn't it time for her to go to bed" i'd just...get tired and go to bed. I also got up without an alarm and would pour myself cereal into a bowl and then play/read/watch TV until my parents got up. I'm a little shocked they didn't have more kids after me. I was very good at that until the insomnia set in around puberty.