Usually when this happens the same cuts are what goes out to all of the English speaking audiences, right?

I don't think so. I think there are different censorship standards in each country. When I was researching Eyes Without A Face, it was noted that they had to make different cuts for each country where it was released.

Then Liv said, "You mean that they can't get married? I'm going to say something bad about republicans. They're bitches!"

So much love.

I like the warning, especially.

But LeN, botox and playing the odds don't have the same goals (well, outside of win), so I'm not sure why they'd be mutually exclusive--you can play all the odds and then lose because you are still telling your opponent what's in your hands (I'm assuming "without looking at your cards" is out of scope at this time), or you can play the odds and have your face not give anything away (through nerves of steel, or facial muscles of concrete).

I don't like him for casting himself in the role he's not suited for.

But we have no idea who cast him.

I assumed since Tom Cruise is also a producer for the movie it was a similar situation with Ben Affleck casting himself as the lead in Argo.

ita, I see your point. but I'm arguing the larger point: which is more effective gameplay? If you are a good poker player, you know how to play in such a way that you are disciplined and focused. If you can do that, you likely can learn how to control your face (or do it in such a way that it is misleading).

botox isn't going to help you with tells that are not in the face. which most of them may be.

I assumed since Tom Cruise is also a producer for the movie it was a similar situation with Ben Affleck casting himself as the lead in Argo.

I don't get how we know either of them wasn't handed the script with the intention of casting them, though. The Rrgo script got to Affleck after five years of work on it. Is the assumption that it was handed to him as a director with no intention of him appearing in it too?

And then someone handed Cruise this script to bring him on board as a producer but not as an actor?

Those are two really dodgy bets for the other producers to make. Even before you get to news like:

Tom Cruise is mulling an opportunity to get involved in a new action-driven literature-turned-film series that revolves around the exploits of a man with the initials J.R. – and no, the role in question would not be that of Jack Ryan. Rather, Cruise could play ex-army cop Jack Reacher in an adaptation of Lee Child’s novel One Shot.

If you are a good poker player, you know how to play in such a way that you are disciplined and focused. If you can do that, you likely can learn how to control your face (or do it in such a way that it is misleading).

What %age of poker players do you estimate are good enough to have no tells? From my (admittedly non-participatory) knowledge, even advanced players have tells. If there's no downside to cutting out how many you give, hey, knock yourself out. If your tell is fiddling with your glass, don't drink at the table. If it's nervous chatter, maybe wear something uncomfortable that reminds you not to talk. And if it's a facial twitch, nuke it.

I don't know if anyone is suggesting that it will take you from obvious to zero tells--just that it's a tool that potentially applies to a reasonable portion of players, and if you are in the group, what's the harm?

The only stuff I knew about the Jack Reacher movies before today is that Tom Cruise was in it and I don't like Tom Cruise as an actor and didn't want to see it.

Prior to today I assumed based on the fact he's still a pretty big star he wanted to do this and got to do the movie.

Today, I looked on IMDB and saw he is listed as one of the producers and figured that gave even more weight to my thought that Cruise got the part because he wanted it even though he's not physically built like the character.

Based on stuff I've read online and in Movies here there seems to be an assumption by other people that Affleck was cast as the lead character instead of a Latino actor because he was the producer on the movie and wanted the role.

Those are assumptions and since I don't care about the movie enough to looking for information about it, then my assumptions are probably wrong.

Kate - flisted!

ita,

aren't there downsides to repeated botox (not medically necessary)? This isn't like changing eye shadow. I thought there were medical studies that indicated negative long-term effects.