Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Apr 15, 2013 6:56:44 pm PDT #18971 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

group hug all the way around. g'night all.


Strix - Apr 15, 2013 6:59:54 pm PDT #18972 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Ice cream with real whipped cream and walnuts. Nom. Hot shower. AH.


Theodosia - Apr 15, 2013 7:04:28 pm PDT #18973 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

The thing about bombing is, it's most often long-run-term unproductive for the bombers, whether we're talking war or terrorism. It tends to get the bomb-ees backs up, and they hate the bombers even more and band together more effectively (i.e. the London Blitz). War-wise you may be able to take out some infrastructure but terrorizing the populace into surrender by and large doesn't work.

(The only time I'll concede that it did work was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but those are and were Special Circumstances.)

Terror bombing may get you headlines, but by and large it makes your cause more unsympathetic. If you want your opposition to get more hard-line so that they clamp down on your people even more, it works.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2013 7:05:33 pm PDT #18974 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What terrorist acts get you good headlines?


Nora Deirdre - Apr 15, 2013 7:09:11 pm PDT #18975 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Tired. Uneasy about closing the computer down and going to bed.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2013 7:10:36 pm PDT #18976 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Terror bombing may get you headlines, but by and large it makes your cause more unsympathetic.

I don't think they care about that. It's an act of defiance against a power they find oppressive.

In the realm of, "You're not the boss of me!"

And Al-Qaeda's goal with the 9/11 attack was to stir up a jihad, to goad the US into war against the Middle East which they thought would cause a popular uprising.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2013 7:11:15 pm PDT #18977 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Uneasy about closing the computer down and going to bed.

Just do it. And take three ibuprofen and drink a lot of water and let sleep shut your brain down for 8 hours.


askye - Apr 15, 2013 7:22:42 pm PDT #18978 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

From what information I've read this seems not about trying to kill as many people as possible but to hurt as many people as possible.

The bombs were at the ground, filled with ball bearings, and most of the injuries seem to be people's legs. But they were also set inside stores or near stores so the glass would blow out and hurt people (also potentionally kill people). But maybe whoever was behind this was trying to kill people and messed up.

I don't know the whole thing is so hard to understand.


askye - Apr 15, 2013 7:34:41 pm PDT #18979 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

And something related but positive - I have a place to offer - a spreadsheet listing I don't know how many people offering places to stay, to clean up, something to eat, for those who need it.

[link]

Don't click through the slide show though, it includes pictures of those who were injured.


Cass - Apr 15, 2013 7:53:29 pm PDT #18980 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

You know, my faith in humanity is weakened by awful people but really I should place more focus in my heart on how damn generous and amazing humans can be as well. And in much greater numbers.