Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts.

Saffron ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Nov 22, 2012 9:19:39 am PST #1817 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I fed my parents their last dinner at the old place last night, and took away their bags for the next two days (they will be camping at my sister's house while we pack up the old place and the movers come). There has been a flurry of stress because the benzos Mom is on run out on Sunday, and the Express Scripts delivery may not arrive until Monday. So on Saturday I get to call the psych and beg for two days of drugs, just in case.

My dad saved a lot of money over the years by being a skinflint (witness the mail-order pharmacy), but that requires a lot more cognitive ability than he's really able to bring to bear now. I'm so happy the staff at the residence will order and track her meds from now on, even if it does cost a lot more. He can afford it.

Anyway, last night I chilled out with Primeval: New World and roasted some beets for today. We did a long run in the hills this morning, and made tea and stuffed the bird. Now I'm lounging about in sweats and just relaxing before going back up the hill to help with prep.

Happy Thanksgiving, Buffistas! May your travels be easy and your dinners unstressful!


DavidS - Nov 22, 2012 9:26:14 am PST #1818 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Have I mentioned lately how much I adore that child?

Emmett took a bunch of pictures of her for his portrait assignment in photography class so you can see how she tied together her bindi/Minnie Mouse ears headband/sparkly hello kitty shoes look.

Oh yeah, and there was a cape.


Burrell - Nov 22, 2012 9:27:55 am PST #1819 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Suela, it sounds like your day has started off right. Vibing hard that it's the start of good things. And Sue, sending thoughts for the start of good things for you, esp work-wise.


Hil R. - Nov 22, 2012 9:28:33 am PST #1820 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I cooked green bean casserole and stuffing today, and organized the fridge so that there will be room for the leftovers without squishing stuff. Next steps for me are finishing setting the table and making mashed potatoes.


Beverly - Nov 22, 2012 9:30:23 am PST #1821 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Happy Thanksgiving, or Thursday, to everyone, wherever you are and however you celebrate, or don't.

There's the rattle of foil for the roasting pan and the muted babble of football. Things here are well underway.


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2012 9:33:12 am PST #1822 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I am onerousing today. I've bought my ticket home for Christmas with the false bargain created by taking two more days off to drop the ticket price by a few hundred dollars.

Called the credit card company again to see why my fraudulent charges form hadn't showed up in the mail and I can't find it online, and now I'm faced with something that shouldn't be a challenge--there's a gas station charge that I can't work out if it's mine or not. My current idea to check is to see if that cryptic line shows up on any of my previous statements, but shouldn't there be a way for me to cross reference EXXONMOBIL 97640932 to an actual address, no?

At least I have mint.com which makes searching the past easier, but still. These codes show up on millions of statements. It's in some database somewhere.


Consuela - Nov 22, 2012 9:53:26 am PST #1823 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, and we listened to "Alice's Restaurant" on vinyl, no less.

Photographic evidence of the pies: [link]


meara - Nov 22, 2012 10:07:30 am PST #1824 of 30001

Trace Adkins just made me cry with a song about fishing with his daughter. It's going to be a long day.

Aww. I like the idea of that song, even if I don't really like the song so much.

I am making chex mix (it has 15 minutes left) and then will put the pie in. We are watching West Wing (after the roommate and i tried for many minutes to figure out if we had something to connect our computers to the TV, and determined we didn't, and were going to try purchasing on Amazon through the TiVO, when I remembered that she OWNS all the seasons of the West Wing. Good grief)


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2012 11:10:13 am PST #1825 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gnargh. Why am I going through my finances today of all days? I found more fraudulent charges to my credit card, a $100 phone call made calling support for work during the wee hours of the morning because the vendors 1-800 number wasn't working and I called the UK instead.

Which meant I logged into work email, and then there was stuff that needed to be answered, and the other stuff I should get a start on so it can be done before the west coast work day starts tomorrow, and ... I'm fucking putting this down on my timesheet, if they need all the details.

Ugh, and I forgot to account for an ER visit before going home....damn, this is all fucked up.


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2012 12:28:20 pm PST #1826 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, instead of staring disconsolately at my TiVo that keeps rebooting itself and then freezing (keeps me on my toes), I decided to flip through some of my open browser windows that have been cluttering the desktop forever.

And it's depressing stuff. I swear it has nothing to do with what day it is, but I found myself randomly reading the text of treaties between the US government and various Native nations, and I got as far as:

The Commissioners Plenipotentiary of all the Choctaw nation [...] shall also restore all the negroes, and all other property taken during the late war, from the citizens, to such person

and I realise I know nothing about the relationship of the Choctaw with slaves of this period. So, you know, Google.

Brought to Indian Territory in the 1830's Black Choctaws arrived with the Choctaw Indians as slaves. Prior to removal the Choctaws had been exposed to Africans in their native homeland of Mississippi. Slaves were a part of the European culture to which the Choctaws would later adapt. Slavery would be one of the institutions the nation would adopt. Chief Moshulatubbee had slaves as did many of the Europeans who married into the nation, with the Folsoms and LeFlores among the larger slave owners.

The only family of distinct free status in the Choctaw Nation at the time of removal was the Beams family, children of Nellie Beams. Though their status was later challenged by their half Choctaw siblings who sought to sell them for profit, their recognized status as free Choctaw citizens was noted by their fellow citizens. A full account of the saga of this family is found in the Journal of Negro History 1976. Slavery remained in the Choctaw Nation, till 1866, when the Treaty of 1866 signed in Ft. Smith, Arkansas requiring that The Choctaws release their Africans from bondage.

I did not know that Native Americans kept black slaves. Was this common?