Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Nov 09, 2012 3:46:11 pm PST #176 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I am past the schadenfreude of Romney's campaign being SO confident they were going to win, and into the part where I feel bad for the regular people who got such a terrible shock.

I am still gleeful about any pain it might have caused Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

And I do hope this is at least the end of the FOX news machine being quite so centered on misinformation. NPR had a story about how some conservatives are pointing out that the insistence on Romney's "momentum" and their conviction that the polls were wrong was pretty damaging.


Anne W. - Nov 09, 2012 3:53:30 pm PST #177 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I wish I could convince my mom that Fox News is full of crap, but any time I point out their distortions, it's dismissed as being from a liberally biased source.

This makes me sad, because otherwise, I can talk to my mom about anything, including fandom.


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2012 3:57:06 pm PST #178 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Does this apply to non-white Christians? What about other religions?

I don't know about all other religions, but something like 72% of Jews voted for Obama.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 4:09:22 pm PST #179 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you can have one or the other but not both

Fair enough. I can wear a slip underneath, so I guess I can cope with a little scratchy. I don't even really know where to go in LA to get crinolines, despite having bought both my white ones here. I just can't remember where...

I have plane tickets to buy too. I've let a lot of stuff slip. Grr.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 4:10:16 pm PST #180 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Does this apply to non-white Christians?

Black churches tend to be politically liberal, ime. My own experiential bias means I'm still surprised that "Christian" means more evangelical than mainline Protestant. My people are Christian and Democrats! (Including my more religiously conservative relatives.)

I assume some combination of margin of error and...I don't know, Herman Cain and Alan Keyes' wives?

Condi Rice.


Laura - Nov 09, 2012 4:10:35 pm PST #181 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I could not love Rachel Maddow more. Just LOVE! [link]

Yes, someone is right on the internet tv. I don't miss Rachel's show, and I am very selective about my internet exposure because I prefer to surround myself with people I respect and agree with. Natural instinct. I know that some of the polarization of opinion can be blamed on the media, but I am at a total loss as to the ideal solution. Except imposing my will on everyone, but that hasn't been real successful so far.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 4:11:03 pm PST #182 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, I think fresh cranberries are my new favorite thing to put in baked goods -- I love the tart/sour in the middle of the sweet.


meara - Nov 09, 2012 4:12:03 pm PST #183 of 30001

I assume some combination of margin of error and...I don't know, Herman Cain and Alan Keyes' wives?

Jesse beat me to Condi!


Laura - Nov 09, 2012 4:18:28 pm PST #184 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

My people are Christian and Democrats! (Including my more religiously conservative relatives.)

My parents are Catholic and seriously pro-life. I'm quite confident that life of the mother would not be an exception for them. Also completely opposed to death penalty on the same moral grounds. Yet, they voted for Obama this time and last because their religious beliefs and their political beliefs are distinct things. They are kinda in the nuns camp where they believe in compassion and doing unto others and all that. They also don't buy trickle down and believe in education, research and development, science, global warming and protecting our environment. I was raised by people that think religious personal decisions aren't to be dictated by government. Huh, what a concept.


askye - Nov 09, 2012 4:18:48 pm PST #185 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

"Christian" means more evangelical than mainline Protestant

If someone is Evangelical it doesn't automatically mean they are conservative. Most conservative Christians are Evangelical but Fred Clark who started Slacktivist considers himself Evangelical but he's very liberal.