You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Nov 09, 2012 3:38:59 pm PST #171 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

FOUR PERCENT OF BLACK WOMEN DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA.

I assume some combination of margin of error and...I don't know, Herman Cain and Alan Keyes' wives?


Kat - Nov 09, 2012 3:39:04 pm PST #172 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I agree that the cultural wars are going to get worse -- this just confirmed what they feared. The minorities are going to band together and take down white people.

WRT the utter shock... it is commensurate to the hubris. If you believe so strongly that you will win, and you are in the bubble of feedback media (meaning the same guy fundraising for you is on the network as a political analyst) then it makes sense you can think you would win. That and this is a master example of doublethink. Romney spent the entire election lying and dissembling to the point where he lied to himself and his staffers to themselves about his chances of winning.


Kat - Nov 09, 2012 3:40:39 pm PST #173 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Don't you think most voters know who they'll vote for long before election day, though?

YES. I wish that politics was more like a cagematch. The election season should be X number of days only. Then decide already.

I think that 4% of black women were all in california and voted Green or Peace and Freedom or some other 3rd party.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 3:41:04 pm PST #174 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't you think most voters know who they'll vote for long before election day, though?

Ask me that question at different times, and I'll give different answers, probably. I do see people saying boring was totes whatevs since they're not making a difference--I wonder what the numbers are like? How many of those no-point-to-mine votes can swing a race?

I also wonder how many people are one-issue voters (he can't have my guns/womb/borders) and how many can you convince at the last minute that their one issue wasn't the one they should have been paying attention to?

I don't know. But there's nothing like an election to indicate how many people don't think in ways I can follow.

Yikes! I need to get off my ass and find a pink or burgundy knee length crinoline. Any suggestions for sources that don't charge an arm and a leg for non-white underskirts? And are smooth and comfy to the legs?


Kat - Nov 09, 2012 3:42:35 pm PST #175 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Any suggestions for sources that don't charge an arm and a leg for non-white underskirts? And are smooth and comfy to the legs?

I think you can have one or the other but not both.

Pix, can you explain the NBPTS renewal process. For Entry 1, I just write about 4 professional growth areas. But then what is the extra pages of documentary evidence?


Dana - Nov 09, 2012 3:46:11 pm PST #176 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I am past the schadenfreude of Romney's campaign being SO confident they were going to win, and into the part where I feel bad for the regular people who got such a terrible shock.

I am still gleeful about any pain it might have caused Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

And I do hope this is at least the end of the FOX news machine being quite so centered on misinformation. NPR had a story about how some conservatives are pointing out that the insistence on Romney's "momentum" and their conviction that the polls were wrong was pretty damaging.


Anne W. - Nov 09, 2012 3:53:30 pm PST #177 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I wish I could convince my mom that Fox News is full of crap, but any time I point out their distortions, it's dismissed as being from a liberally biased source.

This makes me sad, because otherwise, I can talk to my mom about anything, including fandom.


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2012 3:57:06 pm PST #178 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Does this apply to non-white Christians? What about other religions?

I don't know about all other religions, but something like 72% of Jews voted for Obama.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 4:09:22 pm PST #179 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you can have one or the other but not both

Fair enough. I can wear a slip underneath, so I guess I can cope with a little scratchy. I don't even really know where to go in LA to get crinolines, despite having bought both my white ones here. I just can't remember where...

I have plane tickets to buy too. I've let a lot of stuff slip. Grr.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 4:10:16 pm PST #180 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Does this apply to non-white Christians?

Black churches tend to be politically liberal, ime. My own experiential bias means I'm still surprised that "Christian" means more evangelical than mainline Protestant. My people are Christian and Democrats! (Including my more religiously conservative relatives.)

I assume some combination of margin of error and...I don't know, Herman Cain and Alan Keyes' wives?

Condi Rice.