You walk in worlds the others can't begin to imagine.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Jun 11, 2012 2:01:35 pm PDT #9280 of 30001
information libertarian

Brenda's right - making it to 5 is huge. Aside from the obvious issues with disease and accidents in a world without antibiotics, the other big killer of otherwise healthy people in pre-modern societies was childbirth. A woman who made it to 45 had a pretty good chance of 80.


-t - Jun 11, 2012 2:02:48 pm PDT #9281 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Tangentially, I decided to try eating 100g of dark chocolate a day as recommended by some study or other (as seen by me on the Good Stuff tumbler, I don't know the source beyond that) and I'm finding that that is kind of a lot of chocolate. A pound and half a week!


billytea - Jun 11, 2012 2:11:09 pm PDT #9282 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Paging billytea: I could have sword I read that sea cucumbers ate by vomiting their stomachs onto the food, digesting it externally, and putting their bits back in. But wikipedia does not back me up on this. Is there another sea creature that eats this way?

There is, for instance starfish. And as a wise man once said, "Starfish have no brain, and they don't even know it."


Jesse - Jun 11, 2012 2:16:44 pm PDT #9283 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Or in infancy. Life expectancy at age 5 is a figure you'll often see that gives you a much clearer picture of reality. Especially for anything pre-20th century.

Oh, absolutely.


Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2012 2:27:56 pm PDT #9284 of 30001
brillig

The tales of the Middle Ages are full of people in their 60s or older, mostly men, given the hazards of childbirth. They also weren't that short, because the heights were being measured from surviving armor, which was mostly fancy presentation stuff given to a nobleman in his youth. He grew out of it, and it was put on display. The armor from his adulthood generally wore out or was reworked into new suits. Most of what survived from general utility armor was melted down for later wars. The fancy stuff survived.


Jesse - Jun 11, 2012 3:14:29 pm PDT #9285 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Related to discussion of diets, a category on the $25,000 Pyramid I'm watching was "fattening foods," and the list was: jam, potato, soda, sausage, hollandaise, eclair, caramel. Potato?? We must have been a few years out from the baked-potato-with-yogurt diet craze.


Jesse - Jun 11, 2012 3:19:26 pm PDT #9286 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(I'm sure I'll stop posting incessantly about old game shows pretty soon.)


Dana - Jun 11, 2012 3:24:02 pm PDT #9287 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I love $25,000 Pyramid.


Jesse - Jun 11, 2012 3:27:29 pm PDT #9288 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm really incredibly excited that it's on GSN -- it didn't used to be.


Dana - Jun 11, 2012 3:49:54 pm PDT #9289 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Man, I'm watching the end of the Tony ceremony, which I had to tape last night, and Hugh Jackman is so ridiculously adorable with his wife that I could plotz.