Good god, if you know a 7:30am meeting is cancelled, why not tell people?
Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.
'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - May 22, 2012 2:41:00 pm PDT #6272 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jessica - May 22, 2012 3:08:58 pm PDT #6273 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Does AA have a legal expectation of privacy, or is it inherent in the name, or the rules of the organisation? I mean, how far do I have to go to establish *this* roomful of people having an expectation of privacy, when the group that meets in the same room in an hour might not?
It is in the rules of the organization, which are (IME) posted on every visible wall surface available, and stated explicitly by the meeting leader before they begin. It would take an immense amount of stupid to be present at an AA meeting and think it was ok to take pictures.
tommyrot - May 22, 2012 3:11:29 pm PDT #6274 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
§ ita § - May 22, 2012 3:16:16 pm PDT #6275 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It would take an immense amount of stupid to be present at an AA meeting and think it was ok to take pictures.
I'm not so curious about okay, more about legal. What specific threshold does AA meet to make it illegal. Does it have to be on the walls? In the name? Group papers?
Basically--what's the minimum I have to do to establish expected privacy in an otherwise public space?
Jessica - May 22, 2012 3:19:25 pm PDT #6276 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Ah, that would probably take a lawyer to answer.
Amy - May 22, 2012 3:22:07 pm PDT #6277 of 30001
Because books.
Not a lawyer, but I think it would have less to do with the space than the rules of belonging to the group/participating in a meeting. Unless you mean someone who isn't in the group taking pictures. Refraining just seems like common sense and respect.
Jesse - May 22, 2012 3:33:03 pm PDT #6278 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Hil, I'm constantly getting spoiled for reality shows on FB, if I don't watch them when they air. I figure it's my own fault.
Oh, fucking god, I don't know if you've met racists until you've met all Jamaicans.
I hate to say this, but I'm pretty sure my grandmother was actually being racist against Jamaicans (or maybe other Caribbean folks), so that brings it full circle? She said something about the "dark" women who came to clean her house being mouthy. I figure it was actually an accent issue, and probably not really an attitude issue, but didn't explore it further with her.
§ ita § - May 22, 2012 3:34:28 pm PDT #6279 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The lifehacker post says it's illegal, period, so that's what I'm curious about. They never define "expectation of privacy". I mean, I can sit around and expect all I want. Does it take someone witnessing my expectation for it to have legal weight?
§ ita § - May 22, 2012 3:35:04 pm PDT #6280 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jamaicans (or maybe other Caribbean folks)
Hey, we don't all look alike, you know?
beth b - May 22, 2012 3:37:21 pm PDT #6281 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
The library is a public space - photos are taken. However, if someone starts taking photos of kids, without talking to parents or making some sort of annocemnet( lik I'm from the local newspaper) we ask questions .
When I worked retail it was no photography - because that is how ideas were stolen ( and shoplifting was planned.
In my gym they say no photography - and because it is private , at the very least they can bar you from the gym