No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kalshane - Nov 06, 2012 7:17:46 pm PST #29496 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Very glad Obama won, even with my issues with him.

Rmoney needs to concede already so I can go to bed.


tommyrot - Nov 06, 2012 7:18:25 pm PST #29497 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Starting with Obama's election in '08, Republicans, Fox and the rest of the conservative media bet everything on an Obama defeat in '12.

With the economy so bad in '08 and Republican obstruction of action to help the economy, maybe that seemed like a reasonable bet. Adding in Citizens United, voter suppression, etc. just made victory seem more likely. Which is why some of them refused to even consider the possibility they'd fail.

So they bet everything and lost. No wonder some of them are having difficulty accepting this.


Kat - Nov 06, 2012 7:19:22 pm PST #29498 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

David, phrasing it as difficult for parents is not really the biggest concern. Kids will lose a month of instruction on top of whatever other furloughs are happening. For kids taking AP classes, they will end the school year well before the exams and then have to sit for the tests weeks later.

I'm baffled that there are any parents who voted against it based on what it will do to gut all education, not just because it screws up daycare plans.


Trudy Booth - Nov 06, 2012 7:20:01 pm PST #29499 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

C'mon now, Steph, that guy is going to be hauled off in cuffs any day now. Let him have his fun while he can.


bon bon - Nov 06, 2012 7:20:55 pm PST #29500 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm listening to bbc through my ipad, it's still amazing that international news orgs do wall-to-wall coverage of this election.


DavidS - Nov 06, 2012 7:21:25 pm PST #29501 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From San Jose Mercury re Prop 30: "So far, almost no votes in from big liberal counties in California - LA, SF, Alameda. Roughly 25 percent in from San Diego and Riverside. None in from Orange. The final chapters on Jerry Brown's tax and the death penalty measure are not close to being written yet."


tommyrot - Nov 06, 2012 7:23:46 pm PST #29502 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

HuffPost said Obama had 290 electoral votes. Now they say 281. Where did the 9 go?


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2012 7:24:15 pm PST #29503 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A broad mandate this is not

What is a broad mandate, then? Feel free to use small words and hand gestures--democracy is new to me (I think that the NBA All Star games were rigged).

I was tempted to try and go to sleep and wake up in a whole new country. But then there was shrieking and clapping from across the courtyard so I stopped composing tumblr posts to see what they were being such graceful winners about...I'm not sure what news station they're watching, but if I move closer to my door, that question will be answered, without me needing to open anything.

I feel bad for republicans in the building. Well, them and people that want to sleep.

Still hollering--I wonder if that's propositions?

People suggested LA Times and Mother Jones for info and analysis of the propositions, and I didn't end up voting on all of them, because a couple I just plain still didn't get. But I swear that the LA Times rationale on the condom thing was twofold: a) porn companies that aren't legit will ignore it and b) legit companies that want to ignore it will move out of CA and take the money with them. If you do accept that porn actors using condoms is a good thing, doesn't that come close to saying their health is important, but not as important as money for the state? I mean--if they said it wasn't our place to say, that would make more sense. But saying it's a good idea, but ineffective PLUS loss of revenue made it sound like there was no point even trying to stipulate workplace safety.

If the issue was, I dunno, assembly line conditions that put factory workers in jeopardy, wouldn't that seem a bit weird--to imply it was up to the factory workers to keep themselves straight, and to say we shouldn't risk losing factories?

Now that I've typed all that out, I need to go back and read it again, because they can't have meant that. I have to be misreading it.


billytea - Nov 06, 2012 7:25:12 pm PST #29504 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

On a serious note, It's extremely heartening that the attempts by Husted et al were ultimately thwarted. (Assuming he doesn't try to pull some "Psych!" moment tomorrow morning.) That would not have been good for the nation.


Steph L. - Nov 06, 2012 7:26:03 pm PST #29505 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Where did the 9 go?

Colorado was called for Obama, and then it seems like HuffPo took it back.

But NBC called Colorado for Obama, so I'm confused.