Oh Allyson,
been there done that, have no gall bladder any more. I don't envy you. The worst pain I have ever experienced in my life.
Weird love's better than no love.
Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
le nubian - Nov 05, 2012 7:03:31 pm PST #28840 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Steph L. - Nov 05, 2012 7:05:23 pm PST #28841 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Okay, fivethirtyeight was updated at 11:30 pm, and has Obama at 315 EV and 92% probability. And Ohio is colored fairly dark blue and Florida is LIGHT BLUE.
Maybe I can go to bed.
javachik - Nov 05, 2012 7:06:12 pm PST #28842 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
I don't get voting against your self-interest.
I completely understand what you're saying here. I actually want to take this a step further and say that we shouldn't necessarily vote in our self-interest. We should be voting in our country's best interest. I mean, listen. I am single. I am not gay. I have no children or elderly dependents. I own a home. I make a fair amount of money.
I vote against "MY" interest because I strongly believe that I am not the center of the fucking universe. I vote for higher taxes for myself. I'd EVEN vote to get rid of the mortgage deduction IF it assured better schools for OTHER people's kids. I vote for marriage equality because other people should have the right to marry whomever they want.
So, what I am saying is that I often vote for thing thing that is going to require more money from me. Because it's the fucking right thing to do as a member of this country that I do love.
Allyson - Nov 05, 2012 7:08:37 pm PST #28843 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
What if Nate Silver is just trolling us?!?!?!
Allyson - Nov 05, 2012 7:10:26 pm PST #28844 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
If Florida goes blue I'll pee.
DavidS - Nov 05, 2012 7:10:29 pm PST #28845 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And Ohio is colored fairly dark blue and Florida is LIGHT BLUE.
I don't think he's going to get Florida because STILL BITTER ABOUT 2000 AND THE CHEATING CHEATERS WHO CHEAT.
But I think Obama's going to get Ohio, Nevada, Virginia, Iowa and Wisconsin. And maybe Colorado. But that should be enough.
Cass - Nov 05, 2012 7:12:02 pm PST #28846 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
So that's a problem, I guess. Fucking aging.
Right? I am way older in more ways than physically than I was in 1992. And I am way more jaded and disgusted with the idea that my vote actually counts than I was in 2000. It gets complicated.
Zenkitty - Nov 05, 2012 7:12:07 pm PST #28847 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
java, I am with you - and mostly entirely like you, as far as demographics - but I don't think it's the same thing. Like, if I lose the mortgage deduction that'll suck, but it won't ruin me. That's not the same as voting for someone who'll take away my health insurance or my right to have birth control, or a long list of important things that I actually need, the loss of which will significantly negatively impact my life.
javachik - Nov 05, 2012 7:16:03 pm PST #28848 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
No, I totally get the difference. What I am saying is that it's sad that people not only vote against their *own* betterment, but against the betterment of the lives of others. Make sense?
My Texan cousin's extended family (mostly his wife's family) over the years has had all kinds of state and Federal assistance (which I support). And yet, "them illegals is ruining the country! And those welfare people need to get to work!"
It's mind-boggling.
Cass - Nov 05, 2012 7:18:38 pm PST #28849 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I actually want to take this a step further and say that we shouldn't necessarily vote in our self-interest. We should be voting in our country's best interest.
I agree. I actually talked a lot with my sister to (shockingly!) get her to even consider recycling. She has three children. I have none. I have no actual skin in this game past my lifetime but I want us to do something good. How am I the outlier here?