If Florida goes blue I'll pee.
Oh, I'm gonna go to the special hell.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Allyson - Nov 05, 2012 7:10:26 pm PST #28844 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
DavidS - Nov 05, 2012 7:10:29 pm PST #28845 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And Ohio is colored fairly dark blue and Florida is LIGHT BLUE.
I don't think he's going to get Florida because STILL BITTER ABOUT 2000 AND THE CHEATING CHEATERS WHO CHEAT.
But I think Obama's going to get Ohio, Nevada, Virginia, Iowa and Wisconsin. And maybe Colorado. But that should be enough.
Cass - Nov 05, 2012 7:12:02 pm PST #28846 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
So that's a problem, I guess. Fucking aging.
Right? I am way older in more ways than physically than I was in 1992. And I am way more jaded and disgusted with the idea that my vote actually counts than I was in 2000. It gets complicated.
Zenkitty - Nov 05, 2012 7:12:07 pm PST #28847 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
java, I am with you - and mostly entirely like you, as far as demographics - but I don't think it's the same thing. Like, if I lose the mortgage deduction that'll suck, but it won't ruin me. That's not the same as voting for someone who'll take away my health insurance or my right to have birth control, or a long list of important things that I actually need, the loss of which will significantly negatively impact my life.
javachik - Nov 05, 2012 7:16:03 pm PST #28848 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
No, I totally get the difference. What I am saying is that it's sad that people not only vote against their *own* betterment, but against the betterment of the lives of others. Make sense?
My Texan cousin's extended family (mostly his wife's family) over the years has had all kinds of state and Federal assistance (which I support). And yet, "them illegals is ruining the country! And those welfare people need to get to work!"
It's mind-boggling.
Cass - Nov 05, 2012 7:18:38 pm PST #28849 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I actually want to take this a step further and say that we shouldn't necessarily vote in our self-interest. We should be voting in our country's best interest.
I agree. I actually talked a lot with my sister to (shockingly!) get her to even consider recycling. She has three children. I have none. I have no actual skin in this game past my lifetime but I want us to do something good. How am I the outlier here?
SuziQ - Nov 05, 2012 7:19:18 pm PST #28850 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
I'm really hoping that Colorado goes for Obama (and Obama wins overall). I was so proud of my new state going blue in 2008, I'd really like to see a repeat.
javachik - Nov 05, 2012 7:19:54 pm PST #28851 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
She has three children. I have none. I have no actual skin in this game past my lifetime but I want us to do something good. How am I the outlier here?
Exactly. Sometimes I feel like I care more about these peoples' kids' future more than they do.
Trudy Booth - Nov 05, 2012 7:24:57 pm PST #28852 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
My Texan cousin's extended family (mostly his wife's family) over the years has had all kinds of state and Federal assistance (which I support). And yet, "them illegals is ruining the country! And those welfare people need to get to work!"
I have similar relatives. It always strikes me as finding someone to look down on in order to feel superior.
Cass - Nov 05, 2012 7:25:56 pm PST #28853 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Exactly. Sometimes I feel like I care more about these peoples' kids' future more than they do.
I just say it out loud now. I am boggled when people won't look ahead. It's weird that I care more about these kids' future than anyone else does. It's just wrong. But people are weird.