Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Oct 25, 2012 2:11:42 pm PDT #27019 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Pretty dress, msbelle, and yes, it would look lovely on you.

Hil, I recommend giving all the plagiarizers no credit on the assignment, and then talking to the class about plagiarism without actually singling anyone out or calling attention to the fact that several students all copied the same answer. They won't do it again if they consequences are real.


le nubian - Oct 25, 2012 2:27:34 pm PDT #27020 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Burrell has a point, but your institution may not give you much of a choice regarding how to handle it. I don't know what your policies are. 2 institutions ago they told me I had to report all instances of plagiarism to the dean's office.


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2012 3:46:25 pm PDT #27021 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, I'm gonna go read fanfic in the car while this headache calms down. And work from home tomorrow.


Strix - Oct 25, 2012 4:14:27 pm PDT #27022 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

All colleges I've worked for, it was mandatory that the university's academic dishonesty policy was included in the syllabus, and students failed the assignment automatically, it was reported to the department chair, and could result in autofailing the class up to expulsion. I had one student who the department head autofailed the course when he plagiarized a midterm essay for a Comp II class.

And believe you me, I covered research methodology, citation and plagiarism VERY carefully in lit and comp courses. I have a no tolerance policy.

ION, I am going as Black Widow for Halloween. I need to buy (and probably spray paint black)two handguns, and rig a utility belt, but I have all the other parts of the costume, I think. I mean, it's not leather or plastic, but I have skintight black leggings and shirt, and either a vest or an underbust cincher, whatever of my sisters that looks best. And I am dyeing my hair superred right now -- for life, not just the costume. And I will be inaugurating my supersexy boots, too; SO not crime fighting boots, but who cares? It's Halloween!


Hil R. - Oct 25, 2012 4:17:34 pm PDT #27023 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

If this were a bigger assignment, I'd probably make a bigger deal about it, but it's a weekly homework assignment. Going through all the reporting procedures for all of them (there were about 15 or 20) would be a royal pain, and I don't feel like it's worth it. If it were a midterm, I'd feel differently.


Strix - Oct 25, 2012 4:23:14 pm PDT #27024 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

15 or 20? UGH, Hil!

Yeah, I can see that. Just flunk 'em on it, and read 'em the riot act. I WOULD make copies of all the plagiarized assignments before handing them back, though.


Juliebird - Oct 25, 2012 4:26:13 pm PDT #27025 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I seem to have caught a case of the stupid this week. I'm about ready to jump off a bridge to rid the world of my stupidity. Just about everything I've done or said has been rebutted and undermined, and I'm thinking that the non-suicidal route is to become a mute who only knows the words "Yes ma'am.". I have an executive director who wants us all to be leaders, and a director who wants me to ask "how high" and I've been torn between offering my differing opinions and being a good minion, and now am in a slump where I feel that my opinion doesn't matter. And then when I don't assert myself, I still get into trouble, because my director is so distracted with a million other things that she isn't actually able to give proper instruction.

I feel like an extra asshole because she's been so nice about guiding me back onto the track that she wants. But in the end it still means that I'm a failure.


Hil R. - Oct 25, 2012 4:28:28 pm PDT #27026 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, I can see that. Just flunk 'em on it, and read 'em the riot act. I WOULD make copies of all the plagiarized assignments before handing them back, though.

Oh, I should have thought of that earlier.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 25, 2012 4:29:23 pm PDT #27027 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I wonder if math could be "plagairized" before the internet. It seems like it would have been more difficult.

Also, my mind is blown, because I just found out that "Get It On (Bang a Gong) was a T.Rex song before it was a Power Station song. It is really funny to me, because T. Rex is an actual classic band, and I really only know Power Station because of my age!


Burrell - Oct 25, 2012 4:32:15 pm PDT #27028 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I assumed it was a homework, not a test, which is the reason I suggested failing the assignment, not the whole class. A test would be an automatic letter in the their file. The fact that several of them did it is what makes it troubling.