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Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

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DebetEsse - Oct 22, 2012 3:31:16 pm PDT #26647 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I could see it being a big problem in local races, though, if you have a large prison within the district/area.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 3:33:53 pm PDT #26648 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm sort of amazed that 1 in 10 adult Floridians has been convicted of a felony.

Yeah, that's kind of bonkers. Even thinking about the reprobates I hung out with in high school, I don't think 10% of people I've ever known have been convicted of a felony. Although maybe. But I hung out with criminals.


flea - Oct 22, 2012 3:34:17 pm PDT #26649 of 30001
information libertarian

Huh, point. Yeah, especially since many officials involved in criminal procedure (sherriffs, prosecutors, judges) are elected in some areas!


flea - Oct 22, 2012 3:36:12 pm PDT #26650 of 30001
information libertarian

The only non-violent things that seem to be felonies are drug possession and burglary. But I suppose those could be heavily pursued locally.


le nubian - Oct 22, 2012 3:41:05 pm PDT #26651 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

flea, you hold more expansive rights views than I do. I think if you are in prison, you should not be able to vote. But I must admit, I don't feel that strongly about this. Well reasoned argument could probably get me to change my mind.

Only 2 states allow prisoners to vote currently: I think it is Maine and Vermont. I am not surprised about those hippies in Vermont.


-t - Oct 22, 2012 3:41:08 pm PDT #26652 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Kiting checks and mail fraud are felonies, aren't they?


le nubian - Oct 22, 2012 3:41:50 pm PDT #26653 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

t,

not according to my lawyer!

I kid. You are correct.


flea - Oct 22, 2012 3:46:36 pm PDT #26654 of 30001
information libertarian

But seriously, 10% of adults in Florida, that's got to be a lot of drug possession convictions, right?

It's also really hard to get a job as an ex-felon, as most places ask you to state if you have ever been convicted of a felony on the application. In the current market of 100 applications for any job, there's an easy weed-out, right? Even if it was 15 years ago when you were 19.


msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 3:47:39 pm PDT #26655 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't think I know a felon. not one. how can 10% of Floridians be felons. cray cray.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 3:49:22 pm PDT #26656 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But seriously, 10% of adults in Florida, that's got to be a lot of drug possession convictions, right?

A quick google found this [link]

"Of the inmates residing in federal prisons as of September 2011, and for whom offense data are known, more than half (101,929 or 50.4%) were serving sentences for federal drug offenses—including simple possession.