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Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Oct 22, 2012 12:02:27 pm PDT #26637 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Why would anyone vote for the guy?

Hardline Republicans, obviously they vote for hardline Republican reasons. People in the centre? They bought Moderate Mitt at the first debate. Everyone knows he's a flip-flopper, he must just have been kidding about those hardline right-wing positions he spouted earlier on (if they heard about them at all).

But that's not why they're voting for him, that's just why they can vote for him. The reason why they're voting for him is that Obama didn't fix all the stuff he said he'd fix. It's not really fair - financial crises are generally very painful, and hard and difficult to get out of, and let's not get into the culpability of the House - but you have a lot of the electorate thinking, well that didn't work, we need to try something else.

(Neither man has a viable plan to reduce the deficit. But while that gets some people on the Right going, I don't think most people care very much.)

I will also say, I think Romney has recently hit on a genuine criticism of Obama, and possibly one that's getting some traction: he isn't touting much of an agenda for a second term. I really don't know what he wants to achieve, beyond repealing the Bush tax cuts for people richer than I am. I think Romney's actually getting traction with the notion that he's the one in this race with a plan for the future. (Something must be done, this is something, therefore we must do it.)

Concerning the behaviour of people in poverty, I've recently been reading a very interesting book, Poor Economics by Banerjee and Duflo. It's about the very poor, people in India or sub-Saharan Africa or such like trying to live on less than a dollar a day. It makes for a very compelling read because, in contrast to so much debate on foreign aid and charity and such, the authors actually spent a great deal of time in the field, running experiments to find out how they really live and what really works (and doesn't) in improving their lives.

Key point for this discussion: yes, if your life is so grindingly miserable and hopeless, finding something that makes it just a little more pleasant is not a luxury. People will, for instance, eschew some calories (even if malnourished already) in favour of a diet that actually tastes good. On that note, I was recently contacted by Medicins sans Frontieres, looking for financial support to distribute a product called Plumpy-Nut. It's peanut butter-based (presumably to appeal to Americans), with added micronutrients (something woefully deficient in even calorically adequate diets in poverty-stricken areas, and something that grain-based food aid doesn't help). Looks like it is very well designed both to target the problem of malnutrition (especially in children), and to work with the lifestyle of the people it's intended to help. (I saw an article on CNN about it a few days later, in this case being distributed by UNICEF. Again, I was perhaps most impressed with the effort to match distribution to conditions on the ground.)


sumi - Oct 22, 2012 12:20:22 pm PDT #26638 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Swan and cygnet.


Dana - Oct 22, 2012 12:26:43 pm PDT #26639 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

HMOG, it is so cold here. It wasn't this cold when I left. Admittedly, I went to New Orleans, and it was warm there, but it is NO LONGER WARM here and it's like winter and shit. Bah.


Burrell - Oct 22, 2012 12:51:15 pm PDT #26640 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

In dessert news, last night my mother made ice cream sandwiches with ginger cookies and pumpkin ice cream that she made by mixing pumpkin into vanilla ice cream, and they were FUCKING DELICIOUS.

Mmm, WAAAANNT!


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 1:06:04 pm PDT #26641 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

On that note, I was recently contacted by Medicins sans Frontieres, looking for financial support to distribute a product called Plumpy-Nut. It's peanut butter-based (presumably to appeal to Americans), with added micronutrients (something woefully deficient in even calorically adequate diets in poverty-stricken areas, and something that grain-based food aid doesn't help). Looks like it is very well designed both to target the problem of malnutrition (especially in children), and to work with the lifestyle of the people it's intended to help. (I saw an article on CNN about it a few days later, in this case being distributed by UNICEF. Again, I was perhaps most impressed with the effort to match distribution to conditions on the ground.)

Yeah, what I heard was that it was a product being used in clinics for people with starvation, but they tested it in "regular" hungry people, to great results. So why not give it to more people?


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 1:06:48 pm PDT #26642 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Burrell, I will not that it was basically assembling, not cooking -- she didn't make any of the parts. Not to downplay the deliciousness! Just the barrier to having your own.


Sheryl - Oct 22, 2012 1:33:59 pm PDT #26643 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

For a day that started with me banging my shin against the base of my bed(guess what? It's dark at 6:30 am) it hasn't been all that bad.


le nubian - Oct 22, 2012 2:37:20 pm PDT #26644 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I was listening to NPR while doing errands and fully 10% of FL adult population cannot vote because they are ex-felons and don't have their voting rights restored. You have to apply after you get out of prison to get your voting rights back and your ability to be a lawyer, etc.

What do all of you think about this? Other states give you voting rights after you have served your sentence. I kind of feel that if you have the ability to drive or hold a job, why shouldn't you also be able to vote?

I think voting rights are different from the right to get a gun - the latter right should be limited based on felony status.


DavidS - Oct 22, 2012 3:03:05 pm PDT #26645 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What do all of you think about this?

This was a big part of Florida swinging to Bush in the 2000 elections. The voter registration rolls were heavily purged. By which I mean, "no black people allowed."


flea - Oct 22, 2012 3:24:10 pm PDT #26646 of 30001
information libertarian

I'm sort of amazed that 1 in 10 adult Floridians has been convicted of a felony. Though I kind of think everybody should be allowed to vote, even people in jail.