What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Oct 22, 2012 8:51:18 am PDT #26592 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I think people do stop trying eventually. Because small economies like you describe might not fix the whole mess, people get discouraged. Even I do. And look for dumb little ways to comfort themselves, etc.

OMG yes THIS.

Related to which, I wish I could track down my favorite Chesterton essay ever, which was about the asshole attitudes of the well-to-do toward being spare-changed by drunks and addicts. He pointed out that as long as you're rich enough to do it on your own dime in your own house, you can drink yourself into stupor and bodily ruin with no social consequences as long as you manage not to lose your fortune or kill everyone else; but if a combination of being dealt a lousy hand at birth and making lousy guesses and poor choices with that lousy hand has led you to the point where you're sleeping in a doorway under a smelly blanket and your shoes are lined with newspaper, how DARE you spend one penny of the charity anyone should unwillingly give you on any substance that numbs the misery and puts the bleakness at bay for an hour. If your life is that utterly shitty, apparently you owe it to the entire universe to keep yourself totally sober and hyperaware of that shittiness.

Not that he thought a permanently alcoholic permanent underclass was a good idea -- he hated it -- but he just thought it was hypocritical bullshittery of the highest class to benefit from a society that creates those rigid social strata, complain about every effort to change that societal structure to make things better for the people at the very bottom, and then act the moral scold at those whom you've just ensured can never escape the bottom for not wanting to spare themselves one small temporary comfort that won't make a damn bit of difference to the bigger picture.


Consuela - Oct 22, 2012 8:53:06 am PDT #26593 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

no income group has a monopoly on people who work hard

Indeed.


JZ - Oct 22, 2012 9:35:17 am PDT #26594 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Holy shit, either I killed Natter or in fact the Buffistas have a monopoly on people who work hard, and we all ran off to do so at the same time (I sincerely hope it's the latter, and apologize if it's the former).


erikaj - Oct 22, 2012 9:35:17 am PDT #26595 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

GK Chesterton and John Munch have the same theory. That happens, well, I'm guessing never!


JZ - Oct 22, 2012 9:36:17 am PDT #26596 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ooh, is there a Munch version of the same rant? Because I'd *love* that.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 9:41:44 am PDT #26597 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For my own part, I got distracted both by work and by thinking about taking a train trip.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 22, 2012 9:43:17 am PDT #26598 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I got distracted because my work email went over the limit and I had to archive or I couldn't send anything. I do not like that. I want to be able to keep at least as much email as I do in my gmail account.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 22, 2012 9:44:10 am PDT #26599 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I was also distracted by this video of a dog costume for Halloween that is perhaps the funniest thing I have seen to date:

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meara - Oct 22, 2012 9:49:42 am PDT #26600 of 30001

Distracted running late for a plane. But adding things to my reading list..


Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 9:50:36 am PDT #26601 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OMG, how is that so hilarious??