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Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2012 11:14:36 am PDT #25466 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Good lord. The mail chain starts with "first thing Friday, so she can do her thing" and ends with "I thought they were due Monday?"

HELLO. THIS IS WHY I START A NEW EMAIL CHAIN. To little effect.

However, I got a "nice email" from my communication-hyper-focussed CIO in explaining status on a highly sensitive topic to one of our COOs. I'm surprised they gave that task to me--in a meeting with me, the CIO, and my boss the Senior Director, I was tasked with reporting status to the COO and a VP.

How would one celebrate the exploration of Africa without being accused of racism?

I'd start by steering away from the bits which exploit the people who were chilling (and killing!) there first. Since there's a "sherpa" factor in a lot of turn of that century exploration, it pretty much taints every party, and sometimes you gotta wonder--do I really need to celebrate something that brought so much pain and anguish to people, even if that wasn't the prime motive (since exploration often led to purloining natural, man-made, and human resources, that's difficult to say)? And then maybe find another, less hotbuttony thing to dress up as.


hippocampus - Oct 12, 2012 11:15:00 am PDT #25467 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

Therefore, to answer your question, you cannot, because the "exploration" of Africa is racist.

Maybe if the idea had started there.

What Brenda said. I was thinking to shift it away from the original, but the subtext is still there.


Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 11:15:10 am PDT #25468 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"But we're reinterpreting the history the way we want it to, without the awful parts"

Oh, without the awful parts. Well that's all good then. Nothing to see here!


DavidS - Oct 12, 2012 11:17:56 am PDT #25469 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Maybe forward this recent unlocking of archives about British practices during colonialism?

Last week three elderly Kenyans established the right to sue the British government for the torture that they suffered – castration, beating and rape – in the Kikuyu detention camps it ran in the 1950s.

Many tens of thousands were detained and tortured in the camps. I won't spare you the details: we have been sparing ourselves the details for far too long. Large numbers of men were castrated with pliers. Others were raped, sometimes with the use of knives, broken bottles, rifle barrels and scorpions. Women had similar instruments forced into their vaginas. The guards and officials sliced off ears and fingers, gouged out eyes, mutilated women's breasts with pliers, poured paraffin over people and set them alight. Untold thousands died.

The government's secret archive, revealed this April, shows that the attorney general, the colonial governor and the colonial secretary knew what was happening. The governor ensured that the perpetrators had legal immunity: including the British officers reported to him for roasting prisoners to death. In public the colonial secretary lied and kept lying.


Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:19:14 am PDT #25470 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Because "we're doing history without any of the bad bits" isn't problematic AT ALL.

Gnng. I know, I know. But the organizers genuinely believes that they can have this theme and not have it reflect the historical problems. Of course, one of the organizers is very proud of their quote of "Steampunk needs historical accuracy like a dirigible needs a goldfish". And while I agree that steampunk is not in any way required to be historically accurate, I DO think steampunk should be aware and respectful of the problems inherent in it, not just go WHEE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION AND COLONIZATION!

Ugh. I'll stick with the goth scene, were the drama is all focused on gossip and backstabbing. That's somehow less face-palmy.


Nora Deirdre - Oct 12, 2012 11:19:49 am PDT #25471 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Jesus fucking Christ! (ETA: to Hec's link)

(good refuting link, though, Hec.)


Jesse - Oct 12, 2012 11:20:07 am PDT #25472 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hey you guys (most recently msbelle and Jess): Tumblr has stopped letting me know if there are any messages, apparently, so I have to remember to look and/or click there by accident. So that's why submissions may take a long time to show up!

goodstuffhappenedtoday.tumblr.com: certified torture-free.


Dana - Oct 12, 2012 11:22:18 am PDT #25473 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, without the awful parts. Well that's all good then. Nothing to see here!

Oh, it's good that we can ignore all of the terrible things that happened to black people. That's definitely nothing like reality.


le nubian - Oct 12, 2012 11:22:59 am PDT #25474 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jessica,

those Biden pics were hilarious.


Nora Deirdre - Oct 12, 2012 11:27:28 am PDT #25475 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Oh, it's good that we can ignore all of the terrible things that happened to black people.

Yes, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU ALL, denying the white folks their right to celebrate the awesomeness that white folks had during colonialism? Man, it was great to be white back in those days. (See also: New Orleans Council Member Jackie Clarkson refusing to back down from her proclamation that life in New Orleans was so much better and more civilized in the 50s)