All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Oct 04, 2012 5:09:31 am PDT #24457 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

there are arguments that the debate was indeed significant in Kennedy v Nixon and Carter v Reagan.

Both of those took place before intensive debate prep was a standard part of the campaign process, though. (And in the case of Kennedy/Nixon, before people really understood how important it was to look good on television.)

I think these days, debates matter much less because there aren't going to be any surprises. Which is why I skipped last night's and watched Survivor instead.


Steph L. - Oct 04, 2012 5:10:26 am PDT #24458 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Which is why I skipped last night's and watched Survivor instead.

We should have stuck to Mythbusters DVDs.


billytea - Oct 04, 2012 5:15:36 am PDT #24459 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

We should have stuck to Mythbusters DVDs.

Hey, what's one more fact-checker?


msbelle - Oct 04, 2012 5:30:13 am PDT #24460 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

people in my office talking about how good the debate was. twitch twitch twitch


Sparky1 - Oct 04, 2012 5:32:28 am PDT #24461 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Library porn!

Not. To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library, and that the architects didn't care.

Grump.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2012 5:34:24 am PDT #24462 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library

Why not?

I didn't know there was a projected 4 year lifespan for library books. Is that true in the US as well?


Jesse - Oct 04, 2012 5:35:43 am PDT #24463 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library, and that the architects didn't care.

Funny -- I was going to say it looks like it's just for people, not to maintain the books.


flea - Oct 04, 2012 5:37:10 am PDT #24464 of 30001
information libertarian

For high-circulation books (NYT Bestellers) that might make sense - they go out many, many times and eventually fall apart. But in an academic library they buy books for the long haul (a book circulating 3 times in 10 years can be a lot), and even in a public library some types of books circulate less, physically lasting longer and staying relevant in terms of content (less popular literature, much nonfiction.)


Jessica - Oct 04, 2012 5:38:56 am PDT #24465 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I didn't know there was a projected 4 year lifespan for library books. Is that true in the US as well?

Per my MiL, book lifespans are measured in loans. I think she said a paperback lasts about 25 loans. (We were talking about eBook pricing, and how some publishers sell their eBooks to libraries in packages of 25 loans per license. Which I thought was stupid, but she said it's very close to paperback pricing since those wear out after about 25 uses anyway.)


Sparky1 - Oct 04, 2012 5:45:46 am PDT #24466 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

I think she said a paperback lasts about 25 loans.

Or one faculty member. The architects' answer that assumes all books have to be replaced in 4 years seem to show them greatly misunderstanding what was actually being said.

From those pictures, a lot of those shelves look very difficult if not impossible to browse (or even reach for a known book) or maintain, and I wonder what the inside of those stacks look/feel like, since we are only being showing the outside edges.

It might look cool, but pfft. I imagine being at the information desk trying to explain to someone where something is shelved.