Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Oct 04, 2012 5:32:28 am PDT #24461 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Library porn!

Not. To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library, and that the architects didn't care.

Grump.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2012 5:34:24 am PDT #24462 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library

Why not?

I didn't know there was a projected 4 year lifespan for library books. Is that true in the US as well?


Jesse - Oct 04, 2012 5:35:43 am PDT #24463 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

To this librarian it doesn't look like people can actually use it as a library, and that the architects didn't care.

Funny -- I was going to say it looks like it's just for people, not to maintain the books.


flea - Oct 04, 2012 5:37:10 am PDT #24464 of 30001
information libertarian

For high-circulation books (NYT Bestellers) that might make sense - they go out many, many times and eventually fall apart. But in an academic library they buy books for the long haul (a book circulating 3 times in 10 years can be a lot), and even in a public library some types of books circulate less, physically lasting longer and staying relevant in terms of content (less popular literature, much nonfiction.)


Jessica - Oct 04, 2012 5:38:56 am PDT #24465 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I didn't know there was a projected 4 year lifespan for library books. Is that true in the US as well?

Per my MiL, book lifespans are measured in loans. I think she said a paperback lasts about 25 loans. (We were talking about eBook pricing, and how some publishers sell their eBooks to libraries in packages of 25 loans per license. Which I thought was stupid, but she said it's very close to paperback pricing since those wear out after about 25 uses anyway.)


Sparky1 - Oct 04, 2012 5:45:46 am PDT #24466 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

I think she said a paperback lasts about 25 loans.

Or one faculty member. The architects' answer that assumes all books have to be replaced in 4 years seem to show them greatly misunderstanding what was actually being said.

From those pictures, a lot of those shelves look very difficult if not impossible to browse (or even reach for a known book) or maintain, and I wonder what the inside of those stacks look/feel like, since we are only being showing the outside edges.

It might look cool, but pfft. I imagine being at the information desk trying to explain to someone where something is shelved.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 04, 2012 5:58:36 am PDT #24467 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I watched about 5-10 minutes of the debate towards the end before I had to give up because Romeny was making me rage-y. I did notice he kept smiling (smirking?) while Obama was speaking but it looked like he was grinding his teeth while he was doing it.


erikaj - Oct 04, 2012 6:06:36 am PDT #24468 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

It was, imo, boring, and didn't discuss things I want to hear about. Obama was conmpetent but subdued...not his best day ever. Romney was bound to have a good day *sometime*, I don't like the man, but he's not a chimp.


tommyrot - Oct 04, 2012 6:07:35 am PDT #24469 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Quantum measurements leave Schrödinger's cat alive

Thought-experiment cats rejoice!

Researchers had suggested it should be possible, in principle, to make measurements that are "gentle" enough not to destroy the superposition. The idea was to measure something less direct than whether the bit is a 1 or a 0 – the equivalent of looking at Schrödinger's cat through blurry glasses. This wouldn't allow you to gain a "strong" piece of information – whether the cat was alive or dead – but you might be able to detect other properties.

Now, R. Vijay of the University of California, Berkeley, and colleagues have managed to create a working equivalent of those blurry glasses. "We only partially open the box," says Vijay.


Jessica - Oct 04, 2012 6:18:20 am PDT #24470 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Politifact has a post up fact checking the debate last night. Short version: Both candidates basically full of shit.

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