Ah, yes, of course. The gypsies, they gave you your soul. The gypsies are filthy people. Ptui! We shall speak of them no more.

Ilona Costa Bianchi ,'The Girl in Question'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


quester - Oct 03, 2012 6:20:34 pm PDT #24436 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

It does seem like the incumbent has a disadvantage in that he's busy trying to run the country on top of campaigning, while the challenger can spend that "run the country" time in debate prep.

This.


le nubian - Oct 03, 2012 6:31:10 pm PDT #24437 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I heard that Obama was in a NATO meeting all day. Is this true?


quester - Oct 03, 2012 6:34:54 pm PDT #24438 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I read that on the Huff Post's debate blog.

eta: About Syria and Turkey.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2012 6:35:16 pm PDT #24439 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Can a debate tank an election? I haven't been able to watch it yet, and people appear to be in mourning.


Ginger - Oct 03, 2012 6:38:58 pm PDT #24440 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't know if that's poor scheduling, or deliberate ballsiness, or what.

Debates too scary for you? Watch Supernatural instead.


Connie Neil - Oct 03, 2012 6:45:15 pm PDT #24441 of 30001
brillig

I think we're seeing some of what were called the lowering of expectations. If Romney managed not to actually say "Let them eat cake" and didn't start proselytizing for the Mormon Church, people would call it a win.


chrismg - Oct 03, 2012 6:48:16 pm PDT #24442 of 30001
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

I haven't been able to watch it yet, and people appear to be in mourning.

I went to watch it at the local Democratic office and people there seemed fairly positive after it was over. I suspect the company you see it in makes a difference; I've seen some places claim Obama got no zingers off at all, and I saw him get at least 3 good ones off.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2012 6:54:35 pm PDT #24443 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's such an odd thing. CNN is giving me DOOOOOM. But then they said all their polls were done by phone. And then I thought, "oh, it's the old people."

I feel kind of bad about that. Am I in privilege-land? Do people still have landlines?


billytea - Oct 03, 2012 6:57:35 pm PDT #24444 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Can a debate tank an election? I haven't been able to watch it yet, and people appear to be in mourning.

I think it's conceivable, and there are arguments that the debate was indeed significant in Kennedy v Nixon and Carter v Reagan. I don't see it here though. I do think Romney was the definite winner, not just against expectations, but there wasn't anything that'll really change people's minds. Obama didn't make any particular stumbles, reactions when he was talking were decent enough and Romney didn't score any real body-blows.


DavidS - Oct 03, 2012 7:06:09 pm PDT #24445 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can a debate tank an election?

Nah. I saw Ronald Reagan go into debate one and ramble like he already had advanced dementia. He pulled it together in the second debate and everybody was convinced he had his marbles and he won.