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Kat - Sep 25, 2012 5:16:49 pm PDT #23461 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I actually think the dropout rate (in real terms, whatever that means, whether it's kids enrolled in 9th who don't graduate or kids enrolled in 12th who don't) has probably decreased. Legislation now legally keeps kids in school longer (in CA it's until 18 not 16) and there are fewer blue collar jobs. Probably in the past 70 years it's gone down. Just not enough. (College grad rates have also gone up in that time frame, to over 25% which is still mindboggling that a college degree is still a minority).

I'm not in a good headspace today.

sarameg - Sep 25, 2012 5:32:57 pm PDT #23462 of 30001

I think the definitions are part of the conundrum. OTOH, I heard that the rate of started-but-failed-to-graduate college has gone up in the US in comparison to the rest of the world. On NPR somewhere. Waving hands.

Connie Neil - Sep 25, 2012 5:32:59 pm PDT #23463 of 30001
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Kat, Hubby had the shockwave lithotripsy many years ago. It went easily, until the hospital we were in closed the recovery wing he was in without checking that there was anyone still in there. But he got a t-shirt out of it!

Liese S. - Sep 25, 2012 5:36:48 pm PDT #23464 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, unsurprisingly, dropout rates on the reservation are exponentially worse than the norm.

Kat, you have had a seriously shit month.

sarameg - Sep 25, 2012 5:36:57 pm PDT #23465 of 30001

OK, this Tammy Taylor-clone totally moved one of her students into her house after he asked.

Jesse - Sep 25, 2012 5:40:53 pm PDT #23466 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(in CA it's until 18 not 16)

Yeah, I was surprised to hear that.

le nubian - Sep 25, 2012 5:43:25 pm PDT #23467 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think the definitions are part of the conundrum. OTOH, I heard that the rate of started-but-failed-to-graduate college has gone up in the US in comparison to the rest of the world. On NPR somewhere. Waving hands.

Yes. this stat was on last week's TAL, but it is a standard stat in education. It's a bad situation that could be improved if colleges spent more time an effort on the problem. IMO.

Jesse - Sep 25, 2012 5:44:58 pm PDT #23468 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh fuck. I bought a jumbo bag of cough drops this morning, but left most of them in the office. I can't decide if I should set my alarm for the morning or just try to sleep. Ugh.

sarameg - Sep 25, 2012 5:45:14 pm PDT #23469 of 30001

...and totally the kid pulled a Riggins. Yeah.

Kat - Sep 25, 2012 6:02:30 pm PDT #23470 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

le nubian,

It's a bad situation that could be improved if colleges spent more time an effort on the problem.

What do you think colleges could do? I am curious because we have lots of kids who think they'll do 2 years of community and transfer to a four year. In 4 years, we've had 2 kids transfer (one was highly motivated and the valedictorian who wasn't allowed to go to Berkeley because her parents wouldn't let her move that far away). We have fewer kids who enroll in a 4 year and then dropout.

I can't imagine ever letting a kid live with me. It's just not... I don't know. I have my own family to raise. Maybe that makes me an asshole, but the ideal will-do-anything-for-a-kid can do some harm in all that good.

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