Harrow: You didn't have to wound that man. Mal: Yeah, I know, it was just funny.

'Shindig'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Sep 18, 2012 8:56:04 am PDT #22584 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Chikat beat me to the bootstrap example. Literally pulling yourself up by them is impossible, which was the irony of the phrase when people knew what they were. Nowadays it just seems to imply that you're in the lazy-no good-suspiciously dark-skinned 47% and with just a little effort you too could be a job creator.


Typo Boy - Sep 18, 2012 8:57:41 am PDT #22585 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I still think that the cognative dissonance described does not include every conservative. It is there and real but there are a variety types of conservatives, and (in addition to the well informed) there are some who are not stupid, not well informed for whom this will make a difference. So I think this will cost Mitt some votes on the right. Who ever thought I'd be the moderate voice among the Buffisitas on a political issue?


Cashmere - Sep 18, 2012 8:59:22 am PDT #22586 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I hear the "half of people in America don't pay taxes" thing ALL the time from people. I respond with, "Which taxes? Income? Payroll? Sales? Property? State? Local?"


le nubian - Sep 18, 2012 9:04:48 am PDT #22587 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I still think some of this tax stuff (in the media not here) is a distraction because I would like to roll up our sleeves and have a discussion of regressive and progressive taxes. I think people who have more income should pay more in taxes.

But I believe in funding social services, fire, police, etc.


Jesse - Sep 18, 2012 9:05:31 am PDT #22588 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Socialist.


Jessica - Sep 18, 2012 9:09:35 am PDT #22589 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Speaking of cultivating dependencies, I have just discovered that there are Heath bars in the snack drawer today. This is very, very bad news for my teeth and waistline.


SuziQ - Sep 18, 2012 9:12:46 am PDT #22590 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Shoot, even if you get a refund of all the federal income taxes you have paid, you have given the government the interest on that money over the year.

I'm an Obama supporter who pays taxes of all sorts. I haven't had to be on welfare or similar. But I did take a mortgage interest deduction for many years - isn't that essentially government assistance?


meara - Sep 18, 2012 9:26:03 am PDT #22591 of 30001

Speaking of cultivating dependencies, I have just discovered that there are Heath bars in the snack drawer today. This is very, very bad news for my teeth and waistline.

There's a snack drawer? Dang. The problem of working from home: no snack drawer. The bigger problem of working from home: whole house is a snack drawer. (of course, today I'm in LA, but whatever)


brenda m - Sep 18, 2012 9:26:07 am PDT #22592 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

David Brooks makes some good points, but then makes sure to say that we should be cutting disability and unemployment benefits

I don't see where he says that. I see he says that those programs can

He refers to Romney's critical or necessary (read it this morning and disremember) entitlement reforms. And says that federal disability and UI in his view do encourage leechery.

But as you say, for a Brooks column, those are some minor quibbles compared to the usual.

But I did take a mortgage interest deduction for many years - isn't that essentially government assistance?

No need for the qualifier "essentially". It is straight up government assistance.

ETA: That I also take advantage of.


Volans - Sep 18, 2012 9:30:00 am PDT #22593 of 30001
move out and draw fire

I've been trying to come up with a pithy one-liner that will go viral about how Virginia, which is a commonwealth, should be all about Obama and "socialism."