How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Sep 18, 2012 5:31:46 am PDT #22524 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Honestly, the shock isn't that I didn't think he thought this, on some level. But some of the time...looking for a way to "elegantly state" this, I thought I was being a. paranoid and 2. hyper-partisan. But, really not. Those tapes came into Daily Kos last week...Kos seemed to think they were fake, initially.(David Corn is a total pro...he checked) I can see why, too...it seems almost like a Democratic parody, "Shit Mitt Romney Says" Don't know about people just hearing this, but I'm going to work harder now.


Volans - Sep 18, 2012 5:38:46 am PDT #22525 of 30001
move out and draw fire

I said this on Facebook, but a lot of the 47% (which is actually 46%) who don't pay income tax are Republicans. I would hope that they take offense at this.

I know I did - I moved from "whatever, Romney, he's not as lifelike as a Real Doll" to "OMG I think I actually hate him."

So good news, he made a human connection with at least one person finally!


Zenkitty - Sep 18, 2012 5:46:39 am PDT #22526 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I didn't think that video would make any real difference. Those in the 47% who like Romney don't think he's actually talking about THEM.


Connie Neil - Sep 18, 2012 5:49:42 am PDT #22527 of 30001
brillig

Didn't he try to do damage control last night, saying it was a poor choice of words?

Actually, he said it might have been a poor choice of words, but he said what he meant, and he meant what he said. And if you elect him he'll make sure you no longer have to be dependent on the government and he'll help you have dignity again. (paraphrase, but not much)


billytea - Sep 18, 2012 5:59:52 am PDT #22528 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I didn't think that video would make any real difference. Those in the 47% who like Romney don't think he's actually talking about THEM.

Yes, that's where the cognitive dissonance kicks in. They don't pay income tax, but they used to, so they're ok. And they're not bludgers like Romney was talking about, and they don't vote Democrat even a little bit, so he can't have been talking about them.

Still, it does pick at the Repub alliance between pro-business fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives. It might reduce Republican motivation at the margins. Kickstarting wavering Democrats is the best chance though, I think.


Jesse - Sep 18, 2012 6:01:43 am PDT #22529 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, I wonder how many working people who don't pay income tax think of themselves as not paying income tax. I mean, look at how much gets taken out of their check! And sure, they get a refund, but they are still giving the government a shitload of money! (In social security, etc., other non-income tax things.)


Jessica - Sep 18, 2012 6:03:12 am PDT #22530 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, I wonder how many working people who don't pay income tax think of themselves as not paying income tax. I mean, look at how much gets taken out of their check!

Yeah, there are so many reasons that 47% number is bullshit.


Volans - Sep 18, 2012 6:10:56 am PDT #22531 of 30001
move out and draw fire

I mean, look at how much gets taken out of their check!

True - they are paying property tax, payroll tax, etc.


Steph L. - Sep 18, 2012 6:11:55 am PDT #22532 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Naw, man, I think Romney is right. I mean, *I'm* an Obama voter, and I totally think I have the right to eat rather than starve.

Boy howdy, he totally pegged me. Damn Democrats who subsist on food.


erikaj - Sep 18, 2012 6:12:04 am PDT #22533 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Totally. But apparently, I'm now a tapeworm.(Bet my typos are very forgivable, now) It will take more than Ann's mythical powers of niceness to fix that.