I tried asking my parents whether Jamaica was a third world country, without giving them the context of this conversation, to see what they'd say. My dad thought about it for a minute and then nodded and said, "Yeah, I guess so." My mother said, "two and a half."

I go back to wondering what a second world country is. These days.

Tom - I'm not sure. I think it's still far away like 2017. However, the health care exchange is supposed to kick in by 2014. I don't know if that's just part of the AHCA.

I know there is opposition to it but I don't think the opposition is going to be able to stop it. The biggest arguments against have been - it will cost small business too much money and people will move to VT just for health care and overload the system.

There maybe a few people who live in a bordering state that might make the move but I doubt there's going there's going to be a huge influx of people. The living expenses are high (especially housing), it's really rural and jobs are hard to find, even though the unemployment rate is lower than the national average.

Oh, and now that I've mentioned Jamaica, my father is answering every question addressed to him with, "We be jammin', mon." I also asked them if they've ever been to Jamaica, and my mother said, "Of course we have," but then thought about it and realized that they've been to a whole bunch of other islands, but never Jamaica.

I think by any reasonable definition Jamaica is third world. (The political definition fell by the wayside even before the fall of the SU.) But people's stereotypes are different from reality. So Jamaica is third world, but its public stereotype is not - possibly in part due to the success of Jamaica's tourist board. And not being in a civil war. And all sorts of silly stuff like Angelina Jolie not adapting an adorable baby from there. People who base not thinking Jamaica is third world on that are wrong, but that is where it comes from.

Well, at one point China would have been considered second or third world. But now? How would you classify it?

In spite of being a major power, still third world. Look at per capita income and poverty rate. China is an economic superpower because with the number of people it has, even a low per capita income equals a lot. But that per capita income is lower than a lot of nations that are acknowledged to be third world. These days, "Global South" and "Global North" are more accepted as terms for this. But they are just as problematic. Many nations that are part of the "Global South" are north of the equator. Many nations that are part of the "Global North" are south of the equator.

Those are all reasons I think make any of those continuums almost useless. Even when we used to think of the world as developed and less developed nations....that all goes to shit with China.

Those are all reasons I think make any of those continuums almost useless. Even when we used to think of the world as developed and less developed nations....that all goes to shit with China.

China's per capita income is only slightly more per year than Jamaica's. In fact in sorted GDP lists, China is immediately above Jamaica.