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Fred ,'Life of the Party'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Sep 01, 2012 2:33:51 pm PDT #20624 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Noisy storm coming in from the west. I thought it was the Grand Prix, but no, that's the other noise....

I'm very jealous.


Jesse - Sep 01, 2012 2:35:27 pm PDT #20625 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

College move-in here. Everyone on the street is lost and everyone in the grocery store is shopping in a group.

I just half-prepped an eggplant for parm: blanched slices and breaded them, and now they are in the freezer! To be parmed when it is colder. I think I overcooked them, but that should be ok, I think.


Jesse - Sep 01, 2012 2:39:41 pm PDT #20626 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, of course it's Allston Christmas aka moving day for many many people, but I am resisting walking the streets looking for free stuff.


Hil R. - Sep 01, 2012 2:55:13 pm PDT #20627 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Deaf preschooler told to change the sign for his name, because his name is Hunter, and the sign for it kinda looks like a gun. (The school district responded in a letter that doesn't seem to me like it clears up anything at all.) [link]


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2012 3:04:23 pm PDT #20628 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know the language details. When the school board says this:

Grand Island Public Schools has not changed the sign language name of any student, nor is it requiring any student to change how his or her name is signed. The school district teaches American Sign Language (“ASL”) for students with hearing impairments. ASL is recommended by the Nebraska Department of Education and is widely used in the United States. The sign language techniques taught in the school district are consistent with the standards of the Nebraska Department of Education and ASL.

And the article mentions that the boy uses SEE--is there an implication that if he was using ASL this wouldn't be an issue?

I just randomly grabbed a pair of sandals before running errands today, and I grabbed a pair I haven't worn in at least two years--because I've gotten away without wearing sandals that long. But 5 years ago, I didn't just wear a range of sandals, I also wore high heeled ones. It was weird being an extra two inches taller to go to Walgreens.

But then I jacked up my knee overtraining with kettlebells, and I was down to just a couple pairs of heels once I'd finally recovered--and those were boots.

I'm just trying to remember the me that used to swan around in those, and it's way peculiar. Mild summers, me not liking how my feet look, the mess that are my permanently bruised shins...I hadn't realised how for granted I was taking my black tights and boots.


Hil R. - Sep 01, 2012 3:18:08 pm PDT #20629 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And the article mentions that the boy uses SEE--is there an implication that if he was using ASL this wouldn't be an issue?

That part was confusing me. But the main differences between ASL and SEE are in the grammar, not the vocabulary. The sign for "hunt" is the same in both. SEE is Signing Exact English, which is basically using English grammar with signs. (There are debates about how useful it is in an academic context, with some people saying that it helps deaf kids learn English better and others saying that it just confuses them; I haven't read enough of the studies to be able to say anything about that issue.)


Hil R. - Sep 01, 2012 3:22:03 pm PDT #20630 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My best guess is that the teacher told the parents to come up with a new name sign, and then the district heard about it and heard all the objections and overruled the teacher, but these articles really don't give enough details to figure all that out.


JenP - Sep 01, 2012 3:47:09 pm PDT #20631 of 30001

My condolences to you and your family, Theo.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2012 4:00:58 pm PDT #20632 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of things with culture (as in diabetes doesn't have one, but Deaf certainly does)--are there detractors of SEE who feel its too much mainstreaming?

Totally unrelatedly--Jason Momoa has been cast as an evil werewolf leader in a movie called Wolves. I'm googling for details, and I find an article which includes this:

Momoa will certainly look the part as the leader of a pack of werewolves

What does that actually mean?


Kat - Sep 01, 2012 4:02:24 pm PDT #20633 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

SEE is Signing Exact English, which is basically using English grammar with signs. (There are debates about how useful it is in an academic context, with some people saying that it helps deaf kids learn English better and others saying that it just confuses them; I haven't read enough of the studies to be able to say anything about that issue.)

Grace uses SEE because we don't know ASL and SEE means we can just sign what we say. This year, my school has an ASL teacher who I can sort of sign with but I'm sure my SEE annoys the fuck out of him.

We have had the worst blood draws ever during this trip to HospitalLand. They lost an IV on Grace less than 24 hours after placing it. Then, using that same arm last night, a phlebotomist fucked up a draw and after 3 sticks, we kicked her out. This afternoon, new phlebotomist wanted to try again, but the charge nurse said no. She tried a site on her right arm, but nothing -- it was scar tissue only from her babyhood. So instead of trying to find another one, the charge nurse did a toe-stick and pressured the blood out (the stick is like when you donate blood and they check the iron levels). It took much longer, but Grace did not fit.

Then Grace and I sat and watched the Food Network. Now I'm tired and so is she. I need to order dinner though.