I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Aug 22, 2012 9:14:07 am PDT #19048 of 30001

I think sexyboyb is worse than leothelionman, but not sure if the 6969 part makes it worse...

So, I don't normally read the comments, but loved this from a commenter on Jezebel:

are we seriously allowing men who think women have magical uteri to make life-altering laws on our reproductive systems?! That's like allowing children to make laws about dentistry based on their understanding of how the tooth fairy collects teeth for a living


Steph L. - Aug 22, 2012 9:21:32 am PDT #19049 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, I don't normally read the comments, but loved this from a commenter on Jezebel:

I wish I could even figure out how to read the comments on Jezebel now. I saw 3. Literally, 3 comments.


erikaj - Aug 22, 2012 9:22:24 am PDT #19050 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

But the truth is, ZK, that I *don't* have the same faith that I had as a younger person, that if I could make people *understand*,everything would be different, and there's no such thing as a truly stupid person, and "what's inside," is truly what counts. Maybe that is getting smarter, but it has kind of wrecked my attitude. So as much as I hate it, there is a "stopped-clock" kind of truth in it. But it can happen whether you are expecting it or not.


erikaj - Aug 22, 2012 9:24:42 am PDT #19051 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Tep, I know. Jez sucks now.(of course, I'm paranoid about internet security so the redesign hates my Firefox. That's truly what sucks.


Fred Pete - Aug 22, 2012 9:26:50 am PDT #19052 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

And, most importantly, they know they are Not That Guy, so, there are what?

From the gay male perspective (I won't claim to speak for others), it doesn't take many That Guys to ruin things. Although I tend to find mansplaining (straightsplaining?) more in the media than in person. But even in the media, it only takes one willfully clueless person to ruin my day.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 22, 2012 9:28:21 am PDT #19053 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I wish I could even figure out how to read the comments on Jezebel now. I saw 3. Literally, 3 comments.

I have actually figured it out, but it is so annoying to me that I can hardly do it.

It takes all the frustrations I have with threaded message boards and compounds them with speed of posting. (I am not talking about threaded like here, I am talking about when each poster starts a thread every time they have a comment.)


erikaj - Aug 22, 2012 9:33:15 am PDT #19054 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I know those guys are still out there...but you don't have to be one to have bias or discriminate. Sometimes a straight-up sexist or ableist almost seems...well, not easier, obviously. They suck. But you don't have to spend as much time trying to get your allies on your side as when they're trying to be "helpful" or "realistic"


msbelle - Aug 22, 2012 9:35:32 am PDT #19055 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Consuela - that article is a thing of beauty.

my fried food is good, but like everything else I have eaten in the last four days, is upsetting my stomach.


Zenkitty - Aug 22, 2012 9:37:43 am PDT #19056 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I get what you're saying, erika. But like you said, you started out believing you could make a difference, that you could make it better. As I told a coworker the other day, I didn't bring a bad attitude to the party; I started out with a helpful hopeful happy attitude. My attitude went bad when I realized nothing was going to get better, and despite the rhetoric of "empowerment", nothing I did or said made any difference. Not to equate our experiences, of course. But your attitude isn't the *essential* problem, even if it might contribute to a specific problem.

What annoys me so much about people saying things like "but your bad attitude is what makes this so bad!" is that you cannot expect a person to always be cheerful and upbeat when things are hard. My bad attitude is a response, not a first-cause.


brenda m - Aug 22, 2012 9:43:46 am PDT #19057 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I am talking about when each poster starts a thread every time they have a comment.)

That drives me batshit.

My bad attitude is a response, not a first-cause.

Yes.