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Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Aug 02, 2012 6:10:26 am PDT #16556 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My grandmother used to sing, "Crock of angels, left of me".


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2012 6:11:24 am PDT #16557 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My line of reasoning, however, may indicate whether it was true or false, independent of what you or I thought it meant.

Uh, no. Its truth or falsehood is independent of how either you or I explain it. It is true. That's not up for debate.

I'm still not seeing this "another thing coming" explanation you keep talking about. I went back four pages, and I don't see one that makes sense, whereas the think one continues to make perfect sense to me--but even if it didn't, it wouldn't make it false--it would just mean I didn't get it.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 02, 2012 6:14:11 am PDT #16558 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The truth is, however, that people have been using thing since the early 1900s, and in fact more people use it than use the technically correct "think".

So you are right- the objective truth is that think is correct, but given usage changes, it seems as though thing is also correct and they are 2 separate phrases now.

My favorite mondegreen is "Happy as a rafter in the marketplace"


Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2012 6:18:13 am PDT #16559 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Heaven is a funky moose.


billytea - Aug 02, 2012 6:23:26 am PDT #16560 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Uh, no. Its truth or falsehood is independent of how either you or I explain it. It is true. That's not up for debate.

I... don't know what you think this contributes to the discussion. In my previous post, I looked at the only example I have of "think" in context (its first usage in 1898), and there, it meant "X is about to find out how wrong he is", not "Think again". Has it changed in meaning since it was coined?

I'm still not seeing this "another thing coming" explanation you keep talking about. I went back four pages, and I don't see one that makes sense, whereas the think one continues to make perfect sense to me--but even if it didn't, it wouldn't make it false--it would just mean I didn't get it.

Here's how I first put it: "[Person A] [expects state of affairs B] but [there will instead be state of affairs C], whether B and C were thoughts, beliefs, feelings, scientific theories, fates, facts in the early Wittgensteinian sense or parcels from UPS." The "other thing coming" is state of affairs C.

I added later: "The "other thing" does not correspond with the thought, but with the content or object of that thought." That is, "You've got another think coming" says that the thought is going to be supplanted. "You've got another thing coming" says that what the person thought to be the state of affairs will be supplanted; in this, it refers to a slightly different element of the situation than does "another think".


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2012 6:24:33 am PDT #16561 of 30001
brillig

Good god, this is still being talked about? And argued about?


msbelle - Aug 02, 2012 6:30:19 am PDT #16562 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

FTR true as it is, original as it is, another think coming makes not sense TO ME, because I do not think of think as a noun.

It was used first, it was used intentially, it makes sense to many many of you. Us thingers will never sway the thinkers.


billytea - Aug 02, 2012 6:34:44 am PDT #16563 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Good god, this is still being talked about? And argued about?

WE OF THE SUGAR GLIDER RESISTANCE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!

Edit: We may, however, succumb to sleepytimes.


Consuela - Aug 02, 2012 6:36:03 am PDT #16564 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Indeed, Shrift--isn't all of London a drinking area?

I watched a little bit of dressage this morning. It's quite pretty, and restful (for me, anyway, if not the competitors). Did anyone else see Stephen Colbert try some dressage this week? He was pretty funny.


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2012 6:40:11 am PDT #16565 of 30001
brillig

Our local paper is proudly touting the lines of people at Chick-fil-a yesterday. Apparently they're standing up for decency and free speech.