He doesn't travel well. He's like fine shrimp.

Anya ,'Touched'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Aug 02, 2012 6:00:00 am PDT #16552 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am wearing a new dress today (this one [link] from the Land's End sale). happy making.

Am interviewing a potential new caregiver tonight. The house is a bit of a mess, but I did a quick clean-up of 2 areas this morning. I am hoping I can get home early enough to clean the litter out and do a quick mop of the entry way.


shrift - Aug 02, 2012 6:01:32 am PDT #16553 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh, ok! Like imagining Hendrix to be singing "Excuse me while I kiss this guy."

That's a mondegreen.


Jessica - Aug 02, 2012 6:02:08 am PDT #16554 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Like imagining Hendrix to be singing "Excuse me while I kiss this guy."

This one is a poor example, as my mother swears that Hendrix used to deliberately sing it that way at live shows and point to "this guy" in the audience to make it clear.

(Besides, "The ants are my friends / they're blowing in the wind" is much funnier.)


-t - Aug 02, 2012 6:06:02 am PDT #16555 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Cute dress, msbelle!

"Wake up to find out that you are the size of a squirrel" is my favorite mondegreen.


Aims - Aug 02, 2012 6:10:26 am PDT #16556 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My grandmother used to sing, "Crock of angels, left of me".


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2012 6:11:24 am PDT #16557 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My line of reasoning, however, may indicate whether it was true or false, independent of what you or I thought it meant.

Uh, no. Its truth or falsehood is independent of how either you or I explain it. It is true. That's not up for debate.

I'm still not seeing this "another thing coming" explanation you keep talking about. I went back four pages, and I don't see one that makes sense, whereas the think one continues to make perfect sense to me--but even if it didn't, it wouldn't make it false--it would just mean I didn't get it.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 02, 2012 6:14:11 am PDT #16558 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The truth is, however, that people have been using thing since the early 1900s, and in fact more people use it than use the technically correct "think".

So you are right- the objective truth is that think is correct, but given usage changes, it seems as though thing is also correct and they are 2 separate phrases now.

My favorite mondegreen is "Happy as a rafter in the marketplace"


Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2012 6:18:13 am PDT #16559 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Heaven is a funky moose.


billytea - Aug 02, 2012 6:23:26 am PDT #16560 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Uh, no. Its truth or falsehood is independent of how either you or I explain it. It is true. That's not up for debate.

I... don't know what you think this contributes to the discussion. In my previous post, I looked at the only example I have of "think" in context (its first usage in 1898), and there, it meant "X is about to find out how wrong he is", not "Think again". Has it changed in meaning since it was coined?

I'm still not seeing this "another thing coming" explanation you keep talking about. I went back four pages, and I don't see one that makes sense, whereas the think one continues to make perfect sense to me--but even if it didn't, it wouldn't make it false--it would just mean I didn't get it.

Here's how I first put it: "[Person A] [expects state of affairs B] but [there will instead be state of affairs C], whether B and C were thoughts, beliefs, feelings, scientific theories, fates, facts in the early Wittgensteinian sense or parcels from UPS." The "other thing coming" is state of affairs C.

I added later: "The "other thing" does not correspond with the thought, but with the content or object of that thought." That is, "You've got another think coming" says that the thought is going to be supplanted. "You've got another thing coming" says that what the person thought to be the state of affairs will be supplanted; in this, it refers to a slightly different element of the situation than does "another think".


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2012 6:24:33 am PDT #16561 of 30001
brillig

Good god, this is still being talked about? And argued about?