And you're sure this isn't just some fanboy thing? 'Cause I've fought more than a couple pimply, overweight vamps that called themselves Lestat.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jul 26, 2012 8:27:25 am PDT #15544 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sorry your day is Clusterfucky, msbelle.

You should declare it the Clusterfuckiest and take a detached but focused attitude to fix what you can when you can. Get Zen, baby! 'Cuz it's the Clusterfuckiest.

Happy birthday, Kat! Cupcakes!

Maker Faire Detroit: The Girl Who Plays with Fieros Interview

So cool. I had to share that with certain Rookie editors, and Matilda's Aunt Angela who got burned out doing counseling with at-risk teens so took a training course and worked as a car mechanic for a couple years.


Strix - Jul 26, 2012 8:48:09 am PDT #15545 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Happy birthday, Kat!!!

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And msbelle, I'm sorry your day is the clusterfuckysuckiest. DO NOT WANT.


Consuela - Jul 26, 2012 9:01:20 am PDT #15546 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

If a community is opposed to discrimination, isn't that enough reason to keep Chick-fil-A out?

Only if there's a legal mechanism. A government entity is bound by the constitutional guarantees of free speech, and cannot punish a business for exercising that right, no matter how much the local community may disagree with the content of the speech.

IIRC, San Francisco requires all its vendors to provide domestic partner benefits, but could not cancel a contract with a vendor if the board helped fund Prop 8, unless they'd done something else to run afoul of their laws and regs.

Boston will have to approve Chik-Fil-A's applications for opening a store, and grant permits to them, and they may be more strict and difficult than they would otherwise be, but I don't think there's a legal mechanism for forbidding them outright to operate in the city.


tommyrot - Jul 26, 2012 9:10:43 am PDT #15547 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Boston will have to approve Chik-Fil-A's applications for opening a store, and grant permits to them, and they may be more strict and difficult than they would otherwise be, but I don't think there's a legal mechanism for forbidding them outright to operate in the city.

Hmmm, I'm not familiar enough with Boston to know if the mayor legally can prevent Chik-Fil-A from opening.

OK, say we're talking about Chicago, where the elected alderman has considerable latitude in granting or denying permits. AFAIK the alderman can legally deny Chik-Fil-A's application for opening a store. Then I would agree with the decision to keep Chik-Fil-A from opening a store in the alderman's ward.

Say it's the reverse situation, and a conservative community doesn't want a business that's known for its advocacy of gay rights to open a store. Assume it's like Chicago and an elected official has enough leeway to legally prevent the company from opening the store. Let's say that does happen. While I would not like the outcome, democracy often results in outcomes I don't like.


Fred Pete - Jul 26, 2012 9:16:54 am PDT #15548 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

To what extent could keeping Chik-Fil-A out of a city be comparable to legislation in certain states (Mississippi comes to mind) imposing such stringent (and, as I understand, unnecessary to health and safety) restrictions on clinics that perform abortions as to effectively close them down? In that context, I note that there is a U.S. Supreme Court decision expressly finding a Constitutional right to obtain an abortion (agree with it or disagree with it -- it is out there) but none to sell chicken sandwiches.


tommyrot - Jul 26, 2012 9:20:43 am PDT #15549 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

In that context, I note that there is a U.S. Supreme Court decision expressly finding a Constitutional right to obtain an abortion (agree with it or disagree with it -- it is out there) but none to sell chicken sandwiches.

If the courts decide Chik-Fil-A has a legal right to open a store where other restaurants are allowed, or if a law is passed to establish that right, well... then that's what happens.


Strix - Jul 26, 2012 9:39:53 am PDT #15550 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Spanish question for a manuscipt:

Would a person be names Maria de Guadalupe Sanchez, or would it be Maria Guadalupe de Sanchez?

(I gotta run to Target, but I appreciate any insight.)


Jesse - Jul 26, 2012 9:44:49 am PDT #15551 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It... depends on what her name is? If she's named after the Virgin of Guadalupe, it could very well be the former. If her father's last name is Guadalupe and her mother's is Sanchez, then the latter.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2012 9:47:23 am PDT #15552 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, msbelle, your boss does sound like an asshole.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 9:48:02 am PDT #15553 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel really stupid when I have to point to the screen to explain things. When I have to point to a word, and then flip windows, and draw a rectangle on the screen with my finger and say "That? Is this."

And everyone can hear exactly how pedantic I'm being, but all I'm saying is: "It's written down. Let me read it to you, since you reading it is not working out so good." With all the attendant grammar issues. Thank dog (in a way) that our manager wasn't here to hear that.

At least they can't tell I'm forwarding emails that say "This is the email in which he's telling you X is Y."

Good god, people. Don't make me have to stand and look over your shoulder while you work. And stop asking me what code you have to change.