Yeah, I could do that, but I'm paralyzed with not caring very much.

Spike ,'Showtime'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Jul 26, 2012 9:16:54 am PDT #15548 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

To what extent could keeping Chik-Fil-A out of a city be comparable to legislation in certain states (Mississippi comes to mind) imposing such stringent (and, as I understand, unnecessary to health and safety) restrictions on clinics that perform abortions as to effectively close them down? In that context, I note that there is a U.S. Supreme Court decision expressly finding a Constitutional right to obtain an abortion (agree with it or disagree with it -- it is out there) but none to sell chicken sandwiches.


tommyrot - Jul 26, 2012 9:20:43 am PDT #15549 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

In that context, I note that there is a U.S. Supreme Court decision expressly finding a Constitutional right to obtain an abortion (agree with it or disagree with it -- it is out there) but none to sell chicken sandwiches.

If the courts decide Chik-Fil-A has a legal right to open a store where other restaurants are allowed, or if a law is passed to establish that right, well... then that's what happens.


Strix - Jul 26, 2012 9:39:53 am PDT #15550 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Spanish question for a manuscipt:

Would a person be names Maria de Guadalupe Sanchez, or would it be Maria Guadalupe de Sanchez?

(I gotta run to Target, but I appreciate any insight.)


Jesse - Jul 26, 2012 9:44:49 am PDT #15551 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It... depends on what her name is? If she's named after the Virgin of Guadalupe, it could very well be the former. If her father's last name is Guadalupe and her mother's is Sanchez, then the latter.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2012 9:47:23 am PDT #15552 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, msbelle, your boss does sound like an asshole.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 9:48:02 am PDT #15553 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel really stupid when I have to point to the screen to explain things. When I have to point to a word, and then flip windows, and draw a rectangle on the screen with my finger and say "That? Is this."

And everyone can hear exactly how pedantic I'm being, but all I'm saying is: "It's written down. Let me read it to you, since you reading it is not working out so good." With all the attendant grammar issues. Thank dog (in a way) that our manager wasn't here to hear that.

At least they can't tell I'm forwarding emails that say "This is the email in which he's telling you X is Y."

Good god, people. Don't make me have to stand and look over your shoulder while you work. And stop asking me what code you have to change.


Consuela - Jul 26, 2012 9:55:33 am PDT #15554 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

OK, say we're talking about Chicago, where the elected alderman has considerable latitude in granting or denying permits. AFAIK the alderman can legally deny Chik-Fil-A's application for opening a store. Then I would agree with the decision to keep Chik-Fil-A from opening a store in the alderman's ward.

Still depends on the legal mechanism. Does Chicago law say that the final decision is up to the unfettered discretion of the alderman? Can he deny a permit to a Republican political group because they're Republican? Or is it merely "how things are done"? In which case, just because it's done doesn't make it constitutional.

I would say that, in general, denying a governmental service (like a planning permit or a zoning waiver) to a business solely because of political positions taken by the owners, which are unrelated to the business or service in question, and which are not otherwise illegal (like inciting the violent overthrow of the government), could be successfully challenged in court.


tommyrot - Jul 26, 2012 10:03:25 am PDT #15555 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Does Chicago law say that the final decision is up to the unfettered discretion of the alderman? Can he deny a permit to a Republican political group because they're Republican? Or is it merely "how things are done"?

I'm not really sure. From what I've read, an alderman can do that. Not sure if it's just a "how things are done" issue.

I am somewhat conflicted about this, so hearing other views is good.


tommyrot - Jul 26, 2012 10:06:04 am PDT #15556 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This reminds me of an issue when I lived in San Francisco back in '94-'95. There was some controversy on whether the city could prevent fast-food places from opening on Upper Haight (that's the West end, right?) Some people thought fast-food places would harm the character of the neighborhood.

Anyone know what happened with this?


sj - Jul 26, 2012 10:07:56 am PDT #15557 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

TCG said that in MA the best Boston could do is make life difficult for a business to get the necessary permits and such and even that would open them up to potential lawsuits.