Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Jul 13, 2012 5:53:45 pm PDT #13764 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Beau said: no way will Castle be in Firefly again.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 5:55:33 pm PDT #13765 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't really believe the idea of a Firefly movie opening with a Wash-Book scene. It's exactly what "we" want, and we don't need what we want. It sounds way weird. But, hey. Maybe Tudyk has changed his mind about involvement in a subsequent movie. It was his call for the original one and done, after all. Oh, wait--evil Joss for killing him, right? My bad. Though I'm not sure what his options were....

Amy, I suggested that if she has any nipples, she take one, and pinch it real hard, and consider if she's ever had any holes created in her body that didn't hurt--take those two concepts, and merge them for the answer to the question. Whether or not my piercing hurt does seem to be beside so many points.

Suits just got real! Badam! This is so much fun this season.

sarameg--it is indeed a weird shit sandwich. I will definitely have to have my antenna up all the time. But my boss? Is being as cordial as can be. Came by at the end of the day (because he knows if I'm in at all, I'm in at 5:45) to see how the vendor meeting I was actually allowed to have went (motherFUCK, he was pissed this morning...), and he seems less nervous about the project we haven't been able to get our hands around for weeks than ever before. So this morning was a hysterical hypocritical air-clearing clusterfuck, and I just know some new things I have to deal with. And I am going to handle the fuck out of this developer. That shit is also going to get real. She agrees to give me a status report every day and doesn't deliver? I'm going to get that directly in front of her manager so it's not me left flapping in the breeze every day unable to report when she stops answering her cell. I'm not going down with her incompetent boat. We coulda been on the same team, but now I know better. Loosely affiliated at best.


sarameg - Jul 13, 2012 6:08:27 pm PDT #13766 of 30001

The head of my development team is known for going hyper-ballistic. Mind you, I've never witnessed this and I got lost with him in Madrid traffic (I was the one talking down the freak-outers and providing directions from his gps system, and I could tell he was freaking too, but all within limits.) But when he did that plus 10 to a friend and coworker, she shut down and walked out, and then went lethal on his ass later (something along the lines of "That was not productive or acceptable and if you do that again, HR will get involved, even though I think they can't help. But you will not speak to me like that ever. I like you, but I hated that.")

I like him and he seems to have had a come-to-jesus since that, but I really have no idea how I'd react if ranted AT. I'm a personal-issues crier, but work shit, I tend towards the nuclear option even when I'm the point of failure.


Consuela - Jul 13, 2012 6:15:05 pm PDT #13767 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Gotta say, a Firefly reboot sounds... unlikely.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 6:17:13 pm PDT #13768 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got *no* spoons, especially this week (it took two ER visits to get me this far...) and I had to close one eye driving home from work and into the office again this morning. When he went off, I was...no way I could hold shit together.

I could think, though, and that's why I flipped everything and said "okay--I want to excel--assume everything I've done is wrong--tell me how to fix this." It yanked his legs out from underneath him because it wasn't defensive and it wasn't antagonistic, and it put him in a place where he was called on to do the things he wants to do as a boss. Yeah, stuff set him off intermittently as we went on, but I suspect I saw him putting stuff together--he complained about things I told him I could give him proof never happened, for instance. I explained the chain of information, but tried not to be finger pointy (so I was fucking startled when he yelled that I should have been pointing fingers at the developer, that it was my job to point fingers--I know I've been bitching about her a bunch here, but I seriously never thought she was incompetent. I thought she wasn't delivering. I thought there was some way around this, a learning curve, more dedication of time...not that she'd topped out, that they'd give UP. Jesus. But that I couldn't get rid of her, I should have been working out how to compensate for her uselessness), and I think that helped. By the end he was laughing and talking about episodes similar to this (him beating himself up in his manager's office (but he's too manfully proud to cry, joking that the reason he had no tissues wasn't because people didn't cry in his office, but because they always did, and he ran out...that sort of stuff), and we had a game plan for both me and the project that's firing him up and keeping me up nights.

Fingers crossed--my manager was out today. I think...I think that was a good thing. If she'd been called in, it would have gone in a whole different direction.


Cass - Jul 13, 2012 6:17:44 pm PDT #13769 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Is this a function of reading it on a Nook? I'm so much less tolerant of stupid shit on the nook than in print.

I think it could be. At least personally I am sometimes compelled to finish books I really don't like when I am holding the actual book. I mean, I only have an inch more to read, I might as well finish it.

Ebooks? I can give them up easier if I am not enjoying them.

I consider this a good thing.


Zenkitty - Jul 13, 2012 6:26:50 pm PDT #13770 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

ita !, I'm so sorry you had to deal with the boss meltdown! It's totally unacceptable for a manager to deal with any employee or any situation that way. And when you work so hard, too, it's doubly unfair.

My manager occasionally has a meltdown. Whenever her boss is riding her and she can't cope with the increased demand for competence, she turns on her direct reports. A few times she's had her meltdown at me. I will stand up for myself, but damn, a confrontation with her leaves me shaken and exhausted and useless for the rest of the day.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 6:30:24 pm PDT #13771 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I swear, I wondered if it was appropriate for me to just leave the room and go home.

And then I thought of my parents and I sat down and let him yell and talked shit out and actually did work. But, good god, it sure felt reasonable to end the work day at 11:30 for a while there. I wasn't sure if I could get back to my desk without looking like I'd just had a blubbering meltdown.


smonster - Jul 13, 2012 6:35:58 pm PDT #13772 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I read the EW liveblog of the Firefly panel, and they didn't mention anything about a reboot.


shrift - Jul 13, 2012 6:37:58 pm PDT #13773 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Is it really? It doesn't seem quite that sticky.

Yep. We have the A/C on, and when I walk outside it feels like I'll mildew if I stay out there too long.