Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.

'Lineage'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 4:59:09 pm PDT #12927 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Looking at that picture I'm really supposed to think they're advertising lip and brow waxing?

Yeah, mmhmm.

Sophia, your post totally weirded me out..it was moose biting sister for a second. Damn, Is it on bad fire? I mean, a large fire, bad damage? I hope not.

Man, the IO9 site design leads to weirdnesses. If you get the "featured" post (they have an algorithm that ranks them) your comment is the first one everyone sees, and there's no clear immediate way to tell that not only are there other comments, you don't need to reply to the featured comment to talk. So I'm getting weird random comments in the middle of perfectly cromulent bad art posts.

Denton was really adamant about making comments harder to read--this is not paraphrasing bitterly and losing context--he said that. He wants more comments to be harder to find. So the reader is presented with the application's ranking of posts that include a number of criteria, but it's not criteria they'll supply. Getting to see *all* the comments before you decide which to read more deeply is not how he wants his sites to work.

So--if a poster decides to write a Chrome plugin to contravene one of his key pieces of functionality (the others being removing stars, allowing quasi-anon posting, and allowing you to kick people out of the thread created by your comment) and show all top level comments at the same time--what's your reaction, as the franchise owner? And the hacker started with Chrome, and is now working on Firefox. Do you task your developers with breaking the hack? Or do you let the people obsessive enough to install a plugin to get back the interface they want a lost cause, and you'll let them have their fun?

I can't work out if he needs to save face, or he has some sort of plan or agreement with advertisers (his new way does have many more unique URLs), or what...I mean, I don't get his model at all. But it's almost impossible to work out if he's right or not. You can't trust any numbers you get from posters, since they're the people he doesn't care about.


brenda m - Jul 05, 2012 5:01:44 pm PDT #12928 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Vampire infestation?


Atropa - Jul 05, 2012 5:17:56 pm PDT #12929 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Denton was really adamant about making comments harder to read--this is not paraphrasing bitterly and losing context--he said that.

Which is part of the reason I'm trying to stop reading those sites. I never have commented, but I liked (well, found amusement in) reading the comments.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 5:23:36 pm PDT #12930 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There is pretty much nothing gawker.com has to offer me without a plethora of comments. Their news is not news, their journalism isn't journalistic--the comments were literally half the fun, if not more. Without that, I can get my shit elsewhere.

I still like IO9 a lot though, but my commenting there has dropped dramatically too. I have to fire up a different browser to be able to read much.

They left lifehacker until the last--I saw some people hoping they'd escape, but sheeit. Nick Denton, man! No matter if the tips and counterpoints in the comments weren't as useful (if not more) than the posts themselves. On IO9 I want to talk to people--on LH they have a shitload of people doing the writer's jobs for free and it's not like I'm the only person that noticed that his employees are often wrong and don't print retractions.

I just keep thinking back to the "Use WD40 on everything!" post that was quickly flooded with "Oh, god, please don't ruin your stuff!" comments from people who seemed to have a clue. I'm not going to get property damage because I don't read the comments on other sites...


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 5:28:01 pm PDT #12931 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, and Denton has of course managed to rile people up, so each new install comes with fresh new *apparently* unbannable trolls making undeletable posts...I suspect they'll be discovering new functionality in the admin console--I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

I think I need ice cream.


le nubian - Jul 05, 2012 5:32:19 pm PDT #12932 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I had the best ice cream yesterday and today:

Haagen Dazs vanilla espresso. It rocks the house.


Amy - Jul 05, 2012 5:43:09 pm PDT #12933 of 30001
Because books.

the comments were literally half the fun, if not more

Very much so. I've been reading both Jezebel and io9 a lot less since I can't figure out how to navigate the comments.


Tom Scola - Jul 05, 2012 6:08:20 pm PDT #12934 of 30001
hwæt

Nick Denton, man!

The dude just can’t leave well enough alone. C’mon.


Atropa - Jul 05, 2012 6:10:10 pm PDT #12935 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

scurries back into the relative safety of b.org

There are times when the fact that I'm an Internet PresenceTM is a little weird. On a whim I took a photo of my evening snack, then posted it on Tumblr. 20 minutes later it has 54 notes. I'm very grateful for my fanbase (and let me tell you, thinking about my "fanbase" is another basket of mutant kittens), but still. Weird.


billytea - Jul 05, 2012 6:12:47 pm PDT #12936 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

There are times when the fact that I'm an Internet PresenceTM is a little weird. On a whim I took a photo of my evening snack, then posted it on Tumblr. 20 minutes later it has 54 notes. I'm very grateful for my fanbase (and let me tell you, thinking about my "fanbase" is another basket of mutant kittens), but still. Weird.

Or, alternatively, your snack was just that awesome.