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Anya ,'Touched'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jul 05, 2012 11:16:47 am PDT #12884 of 30001
Because books.

"come back when you get your period" is pretty sexist

It is, but in this context the intent is to indicate when she's "reached maturity," which is age-related.

Don't get me wrong -- no one should be picking fights with eleven-year-olds on Twitter in the first place (and I'd venture that most eleven-year-olds shouldn't be tweeting anyway), but in this case they're calling out the offending tweet for the wrong reasons.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 11:17:23 am PDT #12885 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

LeN, I don't think I'm being naive thinking that being gendered and an insult (it is both) doesn't mean it's sexist. Because if they'd been trashing Jaden, I'd imagine they'd have told him to come back when he can grow a beard. You absolutely can't know. Like msbelle said. I mean, Bieber gets too young shit tossed at him too. I don't know what the volume of each is, but it's not like being a rich white kid is exempting anyone from criticism.


erikaj - Jul 05, 2012 11:17:42 am PDT #12886 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I have to say I felt similar emotions when Avril Lavigne, all of nineteen or whatever, referred in an interview to her album as "Something I've been working for my whole life," and I kind of like Avril Lavigne, but still? For half a second I was thinking "Just die, Avril," which makes me glad I didn't tweet that.


Atropa - Jul 05, 2012 11:22:02 am PDT #12887 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Hey, Jilli! Is this: [link] of any interest to you? It fucking rocks, that what it does.

makes whimpering noises at the laptop

I wants it. Or a reproduction of it.


Connie Neil - Jul 05, 2012 11:25:49 am PDT #12888 of 30001
brillig

I wants it. Or a reproduction of it.

If you can't find reproductions, I'll arm wrestle you for it.


le nubian - Jul 05, 2012 11:31:18 am PDT #12889 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The person did not hurl a neutral comment: "come back when you are adult" which would be firmly ageist and nothing else. The person hurled a phrase that to my eyes is pretty sexist. I get your points above, but by intertwining both things, I read it as sexist and ageist.

The racism part isn't apparent from that one remark.


Connie Neil - Jul 05, 2012 11:37:08 am PDT #12890 of 30001
brillig

Does it matter if it was a man or woman who said it? Because that seems like a phrasing more likely to come from a woman.


le nubian - Jul 05, 2012 11:45:11 am PDT #12891 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I firmly believe women can be sexist, so in my view, no.


Connie Neil - Jul 05, 2012 11:50:42 am PDT #12892 of 30001
brillig

Granted, LeN. Now I'm curious as to the likelihood of a man linking a period to maturity. I know too many appalling sorts that would be using a different type of milestone.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 11:57:08 am PDT #12893 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, for me I can only go as far as gendered insult. I know some people think those are as bad as a sexist insult, I do not agree. At least, not in that example. I don't feel she's being told to shut it because she's female. Or that calling out menarche is offensive or belittling. She's being dumped on because she's eleven, in my read, not because she's she.