I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Apr 16, 2012 5:24:28 pm PDT #1259 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Could you explain that firefighters used to be a subscription service, and if your house was on fire and you hadn't paid them, they'd let it burn?

That actually happened last year in Tennessee. The homeowner was behind on his payment to the fire department by $75. So the firefighters stood there and let his house burn down.


msbelle - Apr 16, 2012 5:24:55 pm PDT #1260 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

FTR, I do not work harder than most people and I do not I even come close. I am fine with that.


askye - Apr 16, 2012 5:25:27 pm PDT #1261 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

It's still like that in some parts of Tennessee. Twice houses burned down because fees weren't paid by the owners. The fire fighters showed up and then didn't stop it, but did make sure the fire didn't spread to other houses.

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le nubian - Apr 16, 2012 5:25:49 pm PDT #1262 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

happened more than once in TN.

that kind of thing makes me really angry.


msbelle - Apr 16, 2012 5:49:22 pm PDT #1263 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

there is some sort of subscription service here for city ambulances.


msbelle - Apr 16, 2012 5:52:24 pm PDT #1264 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

the wrong people have not responded yet.


Consuela - Apr 16, 2012 5:54:37 pm PDT #1265 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

OMG Cheney's insurance is government provided, right?!?

Oh, yeah, I'm sure of it, as a former VP. All of Congress gets better health-care than most US citizens, and I think it's single-payer, like an HMO.

Planet Money had a podcast last year about the definition of "public good" and what sorts of things are appropriate for government to provide. What it came down to was things that cost too much to be implemented on a private model, and that don't have any added cost if someone who doesn't pay into the service uses it.

So, like, a bridge costs too much to be built privately, but that cost isn't increased if someone uses it without paying for it. Freeloaders, in essence, don't add to the cost of the bridge, because there's no unit cost for bridge use.

Same goes for police, defense, lighthouses, or parks--what's the unit cost of the benefit to me of the local PD?

But health care, for instance, I can see an argument that it's not a public good in the same way, because the unit cost of a non-subscriber using the system is something that can be calculated. Same goes for public education, I guess.

On the other side, the benefits to the society as a whole of having everyone get good health care or an education are measureable, and enormous. So the argument doesn't really hold up, although it's an interesting exercise.


Zenkitty - Apr 16, 2012 6:00:36 pm PDT #1266 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I learn so much here.


Tom Scola - Apr 16, 2012 6:27:23 pm PDT #1267 of 30001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

People, TILDA STARDUST!


Atropa - Apr 16, 2012 6:30:30 pm PDT #1268 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

People, TILDA STARDUST!

I'm stunned into silence by the sheer genius and beauty of it. Thank you for linking to that.