That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?

Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Nov 16, 2011 8:07:46 am PST #7047 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Not only that, but the higher rate can mean more stuff/jobs in stuff like science (heh).

Would you like to have the James Webb telescope and look back in time toward the Big Bang? Because the # of scientists, engineers, and widget makers who will be employed by that project is substantial.

Rovers get made right here, from design to the bolts to the launch. Thousands of people are employed to work on these things that benefit humanity and create more jobs in the long run. I'm preaching to the choir, I know.

I just hate that, "i don't want to contribute to the war machine" shit. You're contributing to roads you drive on, jackass. You're contributing to science, education, the arts, etc. More money in, means those things get better funding as well. And the war machine pays for Kevlar, too, jerky.

If you think rich people are going to say, "you know, I want to spend 8 billion on an awesome telescope, just to see what's out there! And then share it with the WHOLE WORLD!"...dude, we'd still be living in caves. It has to be a collective decision. Likewise with places like CDC.


Zenkitty - Nov 16, 2011 8:08:57 am PST #7048 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I wonder if there's a point at which they stop and think that they don't need one. more. thing.

I think that paying $25,000 for a handbag or owning five houses or jetting off to Cancun every weekend just becomes normal. They don't think about, wait, maybe we shouldn't do this, maybe we could not do this. Like how an "average" person might not think twice about hopping in the car three times a day to make a quick trip to the store, or letting the water run while they're brushing their teeth. Or, um, buying every book that catches her attention on Amazon instead of putting them in her Wishlist.


Kathy A - Nov 16, 2011 8:09:26 am PST #7049 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Pepperidge Farm makes Very Thin Sliced bread. It's very thin. 2 slices is less bread than in one regular slice.

Really? I'll have to pick some up. Thanks!


bon bon - Nov 16, 2011 8:12:21 am PST #7050 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Because then the argument would be, "good, let's just let rich people pay what they like extra, instead of raising taxes.". It's related to the idea that we shouldn't raise taxes on the rich so that their money can go to more efficient uses. It's also just meaningless for Simmons to give like 10mm to the government-- that's a rounding error.


Allyson - Nov 16, 2011 8:16:43 am PST #7051 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't see what's wrong about jetting off to Cancun, any more than I see what's wrong with not digging up a root to boil for dinner and instead ordering in Thai if it is something that one can afford to do.

If I'm ordering in Thai and telling my landlord I'm $20 short on the rent, then I'm an ass. Because she's depending on that, and I agreed to pay it.

If I order Thai every night and tell the IRS, "oh, I can't pay my taxes, but I am supporting this Thai restaurant by keeping the delivery dude employed" I think the IRS would be like, "no, fuck you, pay it."


Strega - Nov 16, 2011 8:17:57 am PST #7052 of 30001

according to Twitter, the OWS LIbrary (and other belongings) is in storage, not dumpsters. So that's something.

Update to the update: thousands of books are missing, along with other materials. Much of what they have recovered is damaged. I guess tossing things into a garbage truck in the middle of the night is not the best way to safely transport property. Who knew?

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Allyson - Nov 16, 2011 8:21:24 am PST #7053 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Because then the argument would be, "good, let's just let rich people pay what they like extra, instead of raising taxes.".

That's someone else's argument. If Simmons is making an argument that he should pay a higher a rate, than he ought to pay the higher rate.

Another argument is, "let the rich decide to pay their own rate."

Another argument is, "let us decide that the tax rate is going to be similar to/less than/more than his secretary's"

Someone else could make that argument, bon, but that's not Simmons' argument or mine. It's not meaningless for Simmons to put his money where his mouth is. I think it's very meaningful. "we should pay it, we can pay it, and I did pay it" is meaningful.


tommyrot - Nov 16, 2011 8:31:26 am PST #7054 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

25 nerdy watches that tech geeks will love

I think one of these will be one of my x-mas presents to myself....


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 8:39:54 am PST #7055 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

25 nerdy watches that tech geeks will love

I've still got the Nightmare Before Xmas watch I got in a BK Big Kids Meal.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2011 8:42:02 am PST #7056 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why would you get this watch when you can do this?

Suri's burn book.