Stop that right now! I can hear the smacking!

Giles ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Nov 15, 2011 10:54:36 am PST #6852 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Conseula,

please do psych yourself up/out for this conversation. You are in a precarious position with the job (yes?) and it is helpful to manage people's perceptions of you when you are able. I think it is important to have this conversation so he knows you aren't TRYING to be bristly - if that is how he interprets it.


Cass - Nov 15, 2011 10:57:02 am PST #6853 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Yeah, ::sigh:: I suspect the Nemesis has played the management here so successfully in part because she plays into the stereotype better than me.

I know that this is a place where we can vent and talk freely, but you just seem so frustrated by your Nemesis because it isn't fair (which, it's not), shouldn't be happening (which, in an ideal work environment is true) and should change (which, from everything you've said is never, ever going to happen.)

I understand why your Nemesis causes you such frustration but it always reads to me like it's a situation that is just not going to change so the only change possible is how you react in the situation. She won't change, she won't be asked to change. And possibly accepting that to some small degree, or appearing to, might change the way you react to her and how you are perceived.

Or, I could be totally off-base.


Connie Neil - Nov 15, 2011 11:00:44 am PST #6854 of 30001
brillig

re: dealing with difficult bosses, just had my monthly meeting with my supervisor, which I normally dread. Either I'm really being a better employee or he's taken lessons on pointing out areas of improvement, because there were actually smiles and approval on both sides in addition to "These stats need looked at." Because I react *much* better to a simple "this spot needs improvement" and moving on rather than "I really think we need to work on this, this area is important, etc. etc." lecture cakes.

I just wish supervisors didn't seem so surprised when someone makes a mistake with a process that they know well. Sometimes things slip by you, sometimes you just don't execute the maneuver correctly. Having done something correctly 500 times is not a guarantee that 501 will also go well, it's just an indication that you should bet in the performer's favor.


Cass - Nov 15, 2011 11:01:29 am PST #6855 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I love that so many people I know have been helped by ADs and I so support people seeking help and finding what works best for them. I'm sadly one of those people where none of them have worked. I've basically given up on trying and go after the symptoms I can take on and often manage. Brain chemistry is something I hope we come to understand better in the future. We've come so far but clearly have only just started.


JenP - Nov 15, 2011 11:30:55 am PST #6856 of 30001

Just listened to the TAL. Parker is the kind of friend who definitely shines the light where it needs to shine, eh? And he'll go right there with you, even knowing how much shit he'll take for it. Dayum.

Also, completely tangential to the story, where he explains that the two missionaries have to be together every single second with the exception of bathroom breaks and, one would assume, showers -- that is a level of togetherness I cannot fathom. For two years! Wow.


Polgara - Nov 15, 2011 11:31:02 am PST #6857 of 30001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

I just stumbled across this article on the tumblr, and it's just for you! Enjoy: Men in Music

Love!


sarameg - Nov 15, 2011 11:31:51 am PST #6858 of 30001

Cats survived the vet trip. Girls cried the whole way there, which oddly, makes Loki quiet. He got chipped and didn't even flinch. They never believe me when I tell them that Devi is a handful. She went to full war cry...for just 2 shots. Pumpkin kept rolling her carrier.

Glad that's over for a year, at least.


Consuela - Nov 15, 2011 11:35:25 am PST #6859 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

She won't change, she won't be asked to change. And possibly accepting that to some small degree, or appearing to, might change the way you react to her and how you are perceived.

Nope, you are right about that. I think I'm hung up on the fact that I'm in the right, damnit. I'm not the one causing delays and extra expense to the organization. I'm not the one lying about the work that's getting done, and going out of the way to undercut other staff. And I get a lot of self-worth out of being right (possibly more than is healthy). So it's difficult to get myself to let go of that.

But I do need to let go of it, at least with regards to the Nemesis: nothing I do has any effect on her behavior. If only her behavior didn't have such a direct impact on how my work gets done...


Atropa - Nov 15, 2011 11:43:34 am PST #6860 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

When is Onerous Task Day? Is it today? I have applied for two different jobs, gone through the hoops to defer/reschedule the jury summons sent to me, and planned the meals and grocery list for this week. I would like a sparkly gold star now.

(I would also like some sense that my resumes aren't just vanishing into HR black holes.)


-t - Nov 15, 2011 11:44:13 am PST #6861 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Relevant to earlier discussion: according to Twitter, the OWS LIbrary (and other belongings) is in storage, not dumpsters. So that's something.

I discovered this because my town now has a food truck! So of course I had to follow it on twitter. The flow of information, it is peculiar.