Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Nov 14, 2011 8:09:11 am PST #6506 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

One little protest that was making the Facebook rounds a couple of weeks back was for people to return those prepaid envelopes that come with credit card offers - since the banks only pay postage on those once they're mailed, returning them empty would (a) give the post office some desperately needed revenue and (b) flood the banks with junk mail and postage fees. I thought it was nicely poetic.


Theodosia - Nov 14, 2011 8:19:20 am PST #6507 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I actually blame the police/people ordering the police more -- because if you don't make it a capital-D Drama the press loses interest and in a couple months the protesters move on to other places.

In the northern cities, the advent of winter is virtually certain to reduce the size of the occupation to token size.

It's not for nothing that the Civil Rights city campaign that was least "effective" was the one where the sheriff went to the library, read up on non-violence and countered all the protests with great restraint. Not much media fodder if you're not breaking ribs, hitting people with rubber bullets et cetera. The protest doesn't turn into a riot, there was next to no property damage, hospital emergency rooms don't fill up, you don't have to fill out a whole lot of paperwork, run out of fingerprint ink, and so on.


ChiKat - Nov 14, 2011 8:20:52 am PST #6508 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Thanks for all the birthday wishes, y'all!


Theodosia - Nov 14, 2011 8:22:57 am PST #6509 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Seriously, what the police should be doing in some of these Occupy places is going around giving the protesters tickets for camping on public property, littering, walking on the grass. With great but firm politeness.


Allyson - Nov 14, 2011 8:35:54 am PST #6510 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Occupy Oakland was just cleared out and the tents ripped down by cops, and Occupy Portland had 50 arrests last night.


Ginger - Nov 14, 2011 8:37:24 am PST #6511 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The Occupy Atlanta group seems to be protesting a different random injustice every day. They're occupying a park that has several regulations that are intended to punish the homeless. They're in violation of all of them, but the rules are inherently unfair. The mayor keeps coming up with estimates of what they've cost the city, but most of that is overtime for an excessive police presence. There haven't been any major confrontations, though.

I think the Occupy movement has started an important conversation, but needs to move on to other ways to continue it. They could assign small groups to "occupy" different banks, as Connie says, or to protest at evictions.


askye - Nov 14, 2011 8:39:17 am PST #6512 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

So, the judge who granted $100,000 unsecured bail to Sandusky was a volunteer at Second Mile.

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According to one report prosecutors wanted $500,000 bail and ankle monitor.

I don't know why she didn't recuse herself, unless she was trying to help/protect Sandusky? This whole thing is so maddening and frustrating and it seems like there were a whole lot of people who didn't care what he did because he was Sandusky.

There was another article about how he was allowed to take at least one victim from school grounds without parental permission or knowledge because of who he was.

AND a wrestling coach saw Sandusky and Victim One lying face to face in the gym.

Plus when Victim 1's mother went to the school they "urged her to think twice about how she wanted to handle the situation 'how it would impact my son'".

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It seems like no one cared about what he was doing because he was Sandusky.


Consuela - Nov 14, 2011 8:40:18 am PST #6513 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

if you don't make it a capital-D Drama the press loses interest and in a couple months the protesters move on to other places

Indeed.

They could assign small groups to "occupy" different banks, as Connie says, or to protest at evictions.

Apparently Occupy Atlanta tried to occupy a house that was being foreclosed on; they had to leave when the cops threatened to arrest the homeowners they were trying to help. I do think that protesting particular evictions would be a more clearly helpful action, though.


askye - Nov 14, 2011 8:42:32 am PST #6514 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Occupy Burlington has ended. A man killed himself in the encampment and everyone was stopped from camping. Occupy Burlington itself decided not to camp anywhere.

They also protested at the Democratic Convention in Burlington.


Tom Scola - Nov 14, 2011 8:50:39 am PST #6515 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I'm getting angry and cranky at a bunch of stupid coworkers today.

Unfortunately, one of those coworkers is my boss.