Whoever is filming this vigil for the live stream can't see the speakers at all, so is filming the crowd, and every so often switching to filming the moon for a little while. It is a very pretty moon tonight, but that seems kind of pointless. And the audio is pretty bad, so that I can barely hear the speakers. I think I'll switch back to just getting the highlights from the newspaper's twitter.

And now the camera person is completely walking away from the crowd. This feed, by the way, is from the local ABC affiliate.

I'm trying, smonster. It's still pretty newish territory for me, but we rub along real well. I set clear boundaries, always explain, give lots of love and physical affection. I'm pretty strict about things like manners and lying, but I am also a big doof who likes water guns and plastic swords fights.

Hil, I'm pleased to hear there's a large presence at the vigil.

Re: crises -- yeah, a responder has to be CALM in an emergency. Freaking out just sets others off, and can escalate stuff. Plus, it wastes time that can be essential. I can overreact to small, niggly stuff sometimes, but I am pretty damned clearheaded in a crisis. I like that about me, but it's something I've learned.

That said, WTR to a situation like the Penn case, my crisis response, had I been the witness, would not have been calm at all, I'm afraid; it would have been quite visceral. Perhaps in more ways than one.

Individuals are supposed to do a lot better.

Yes, but I don't see any evidence those guys were acting like individuals, even when they were alone in the room.

Wow, tommyrot, that was a cool list! The only one I knew about was the first woman.

What ita ! said. It's the dark side of deep loyalty.

ita,

my only point in bringing that up is that your example probably isn't the right one for the Penn State situation. From my understanding, that line of research refers to why people in crowds (like bystanders when someone falls ill at a mall or something) often watch and wait for another to take action - although even this research doesn't show that it happens all the time. The converse isn't necessarily true.

In the PSU situation, a different set of social pressures are at work. Over-identification with institution would be where I'd begin.

Everyday Food -- it's got great ideas for fast/easy stuff.

I always wind up buying this in the checkout line. I should probably just bite the bullet and subscribe.

ANyone here have any experience with removing gel nail polish? The manicurist who put it on said to take it off like normal but its not coming off. And I looked online but they mention soaking your fingers in acetone for a long time. Which I really don't want to do.

Stephanie - I have tried to remove it at home and was not successful, even with acetone.